Guns International

San Antonio Mayor Predicts: Texas Is Going ‘Purple’ Soon

The #1 community for Gun Owners in Texas

Member Benefits:

  • Fewer Ads!
  • Discuss all aspects of firearm ownership
  • Discuss anti-gun legislation
  • Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section
  • Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses
  • Discover free outdoor shooting areas
  • View up to date on firearm-related events
  • Share photos & video with other members
  • ...and so much more!
  • shortround

    TGT Addict
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Jan 24, 2011
    6,624
    31
    Grid 0409
    Much like his Hawaii/Chicago messiah, he attended an Ivy League School when he came from a no-daddy household that could not afford that kind of education, much less air fare to LaLa Land and living expenses.

    Who was the sugar daddy that funded this? Who put up the $$ for his mayoral campaign? Follow the money.

    The first hundred names listed in the San Antonio/Bexar County phone book could do a better job of governance of SA/BC.
    ARJ Defense ad
     

    stdreb27

    TGT Addict
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Dec 12, 2011
    3,905
    46
    Corpus christi
    San Antonio Mayor Predicts: Texas Is Going ‘Purple’ Soon

    They will vote for whomever gives then free shit from American taxpayers
    No, I'm a perfect example of "them" not here for a free handout. I'm second gen, still speak both languages. And you won't find a more staunch conservative family than mine. They, like my family. Just need to be shown the light. IMO when they show up, the democrats are there waiting with a ground game, of this is how you get free stuff.
    If the right was out there waiting with, this is how you get rich, live your life free of a tyrannical government, and drug lords... It would be a different ball game...
     

    M. Sage

    TGT Addict
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Jan 21, 2009
    16,298
    21
    San Antonio
    I still don't buy that Mexicans will vote democrat... IMO it will turn purple because people will start voting libertarian. And end up splitting the republican vote...

    It's reached the point of either find a new party or see the Republican Party turn into a carbon copy of the Democrats. There's a reason fewer people voted in this Presidential election than the last one...

    A third party, especially a libertarian one, would pull away a large number of Democrats, too oddly enough. The attraction (for me, anyway) to a more libertarian party is because libertarians are socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

    Now if we could only convince our friends and neighbors that they don't have the right to tell us how to live our lives, and we don't have the right to tell them how to live theirs.
     

    stdreb27

    TGT Addict
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Dec 12, 2011
    3,905
    46
    Corpus christi
    San Antonio Mayor Predicts: Texas Is Going ‘Purple’ Soon

    It's reached the point of either find a new party or see the Republican Party turn into a carbon copy of the Democrats. There's a reason fewer people voted in this Presidential election than the last one...

    A third party, especially a libertarian one, would pull away a large number of Democrats, too oddly enough. The attraction (for me, anyway) to a more libertarian party is because libertarians are socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

    Now if we could only convince our friends and neighbors that they don't have the right to tell us how to live our lives, and we don't have the right to tell them how to live theirs.

    Those "socially liberal" folks are more in people's business than most conservatives...

    Go look at what happens in Canada when you say contradict the gay rights agenda.
     
    Last edited:

    stdreb27

    TGT Addict
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Dec 12, 2011
    3,905
    46
    Corpus christi
    Talking true liberal. The word's been stolen. What we call liberals aren't.

    lol, well, there is always that debate isn't there. What is liberal?

    But let me put it this way. IMO the Anything goes crowd. You know the pro-abortion, pro-gay marrirage etc. Pro-drug, whatever your socially liberal pet issue. Are far less tolerant and far more willing to get in your business, than the average conservative. (obviously there are exceptions)

    The "libertarians" I talk too, ones who fancy themselves socially liberal, and fiscally conservative. Are all the same. They support the same crap the kooky left support socially. They base their belief off the same assumptions, and reach the same conclusions. They just aren't willing to blow the money on welfare.
     

    M. Sage

    TGT Addict
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Jan 21, 2009
    16,298
    21
    San Antonio
    lol, well, there is always that debate isn't there. What is liberal?

    But let me put it this way. IMO the Anything goes crowd. You know the pro-abortion, pro-gay marrirage etc. Pro-drug, whatever your socially liberal pet issue. Are far less tolerant and far more willing to get in your business, than the average conservative. (obviously there are exceptions)

    The "libertarians" I talk too, ones who fancy themselves socially liberal, and fiscally conservative. Are all the same. They support the same crap the kooky left support socially. They base their belief off the same assumptions, and reach the same conclusions. They just aren't willing to blow the money on welfare.

    I'll argue the drug war. First, it's definitely unconstitutional. There's a reason why it took an amendment to ban alcohol. No difference.

    Second, the war on drugs is the reason why we have the "gun crime problem" we have in the US.

    As far as gay marriage, it doesn't hurt you, it can't hurt you, it'll never hurt you.

    What kills me is that there are so many so-called "small government conservatives" who are every bit as fast to jump in other folks' business as the progressives we mistakenly call liberals.
     

    stdreb27

    TGT Addict
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Dec 12, 2011
    3,905
    46
    Corpus christi
    San Antonio Mayor Predicts: Texas Is Going ‘Purple’ Soon

    I'll argue the drug war. First, it's definitely unconstitutional. There's a reason why it took an amendment to ban alcohol. No difference.

    Second, the war on drugs is the reason why we have the "gun crime problem" we have in the US.

    As far as gay marriage, it doesn't hurt you, it can't hurt you, it'll never hurt you.

    What kills me is that there are so many so-called "small government conservatives" who are every bit as fast to jump in other folks' business as the progressives we mistakenly call liberals.

    I'm not here to discuss those issues, I'm just discussing the poly-sci of Texas. Where I think the reason Texas would turn blue would be a split in the Republican Party. Thanks to them voting libertarian.

    But I can't help my self. The ironic part of a libertarian supporting gay marriage, is that governments recognizing marriage isn't part of the constitution. If they were truly honest, they'd be campaigning for government to stop recognizing marriage all together...

    (Something I'd support btw).

    All moral qualms aside, I can't support an issue, where victory would be government recognition of said issue...

    But let's go deeper, simple google searches would Illustrate how it could affect people, from that bill in California dictating how counselors can treat their patients to chick-fil-a having to stop supporting religious organizations because of that organization's positions. Just to get building permits... Or photographers being taken to court and fined or not doing a gay wedding...

    I just don't see that happening on the right... I'm sure some one some where has abused their power for a right wing policy. But...
     

    TheDan

    deplorable malcontent scofflaw
    Rating - 100%
    8   0   0
    Nov 11, 2008
    28,060
    96
    Austin - Rockdale
    It's reached the point of either find a new party or see the Republican Party turn into a carbon copy of the Democrats.
    Yup! I wouldn't say the Dems vs. Repubs can be categorized by "liberal vs. conservative" anymore. It's more like "progressive vs. traditionalist", and both of them are statists and/or socialists.





    But I can't help my self. The ironic part of a libertarian supporting gay marriage, is that governments recognizing marriage isn't part of the constitution. If they were truly honest, they'd be campaigning for government to stop recognizing marriage all together...
    huge +1... The government needs to but out of marriage all together. Why do you have to be "licensed" to get married? Would me lord like to claim the right of prima-nocte as well?
     

    SIG_Fiend

    TGT Addict
    TGT Supporter
    Admin
    Rating - 100%
    6   0   0
    Feb 21, 2008
    7,234
    66
    Austin, TX
    If you look at both Austin and San Antonio, that is a pretty tight controlled pair to the center mass of Texas. I'm sure that's not an accident either.
     

    Whiskey_Rocka_Rolla

    Well-Known
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Mar 29, 2012
    1,187
    21
    Houston
    If enough idiots move or pro create in Texas, we will be going purple soon. Pretty important we get voter fraud and other threats to the integrity of state elections, addressed before the next round of elections.
     

    Whiskey_Rocka_Rolla

    Well-Known
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Mar 29, 2012
    1,187
    21
    Houston
    What is liberal?

    IMO the Anything goes crowd. You know the pro-abortion, pro-gay marrirage etc. Pro-drug, whatever your socially liberal pet issue. Are far less tolerant and far more willing to get in your business, than the average conservative. (obviously there are exceptions)

    And at the same time, the "ban everything" crowd
     

    zembonez

    TGT Addict
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Feb 22, 2008
    4,726
    21
    Republic of Texas
    If we keep allowing an unchecked flow of illegals into the state, you can damn well bet we will be purple soon. They know how to get all of the free services and how to vote for the candidates that keep em coming.

    I am anything but anti immigration, but let's enforce the damn laws that are on the books.
     

    M. Sage

    TGT Addict
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Jan 21, 2009
    16,298
    21
    San Antonio
    I'm not here to discuss those issues, I'm just discussing the poly-sci of Texas. Where I think the reason Texas would turn blue would be a split in the Republican Party. Thanks to them voting libertarian.

    But I can't help my self. The ironic part of a libertarian supporting gay marriage, is that governments recognizing marriage isn't part of the constitution. If they were truly honest, they'd be campaigning for government to stop recognizing marriage all together...

    (Something I'd support btw).

    All moral qualms aside, I can't support an issue, where victory would be government recognition of said issue...

    But let's go deeper, simple google searches would Illustrate how it could affect people, from that bill in California dictating how counselors can treat their patients to chick-fil-a having to stop supporting religious organizations because of that organization's positions. Just to get building permits... Or photographers being taken to court and fined or not doing a gay wedding...

    I just don't see that happening on the right... I'm sure some one some where has abused their power for a right wing policy. But...

    Those are all things that are consistent with libertarian values, and something a lot of us would like to see happen.

    FWIW, the Republican Party is already split three ways. It's split between the statists who run it and their blind cheerleaders who assume everything is OK with the Party, the nose-holders who vote R because it's not D and the "**** it, why bother voting" contingent.
     

    stdreb27

    TGT Addict
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Dec 12, 2011
    3,905
    46
    Corpus christi
    San Antonio Mayor Predicts: Texas Is Going ‘Purple’ Soon

    I guess I say all that to say IMO right now voting third party will only serve to facilitate the left's rise to long term power. If you truly want to bring about change you're gonna have to reform the Republican Party..
     

    Younggun

    Certified Jackass
    TGT Supporter
    Local Business Supporter
    Rating - 100%
    6   0   0
    Jul 31, 2011
    53,842
    96
    hill co.
    San Antonio Mayor Predicts: Texas Is Going ‘Purple’ Soon

    I guess I say all that to say IMO right now voting third party will only serve to facilitate the left's rise to long term power. If you truly want to bring about change you're gonna have to reform the Republican Party..

    IMO, if the Republican Party reforms it will start leaning left trying to pick up middle ground voters or whatever you might call them.

    I don't agree with everything that came out of Ron Paul's mouth but I truly believed he would steer this country in the right direction. I voted repub because I feared a split vote would help Obama.

    It's sad but we have made ourselves prisoners of the status quo and changing that will not be easy. I hope four years from now a libertarian can sneak in as a repub candidate and pull enough votes to get the nomination.

    I doubt we will see in good changes in the current party system until that happens.
     

    stdreb27

    TGT Addict
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Dec 12, 2011
    3,905
    46
    Corpus christi
    San Antonio Mayor Predicts: Texas Is Going ‘Purple’ Soon

    IMO, if the Republican Party reforms it will start leaning left trying to pick up middle ground voters or whatever you might call them.

    I don't agree with everything that came out of Ron Paul's mouth but I truly believed he would steer this country in the right direction. I voted repub because I feared a split vote would help Obama.

    It's sad but we have made ourselves prisoners of the status quo and changing that will not be easy. I hope four years from now a libertarian can sneak in as a repub candidate and pull enough votes to get the nomination.

    I doubt we will see in good changes in the current party system until that happens.

    They already lean left, at least leadership wise... They need to go right...

    IMO the leadership has no interest in decentralizing government power. They just want to be in control of said power. Which is why they need to be reformed.
     

    SublimeZ

    Member
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Jul 20, 2012
    122
    1
    Austin
    Obama Democrats Mess with Texas, Plot to Turn Lone Star State Blue

    [h=1]OBAMA DEMOCRATS MESS WITH TEXAS, PLOT TO TURN LONE STAR STATE BLUE[/h]
    [h=2]President Barack Obama’s former national field director Jeremy Bird has launched an organization with a plan to turn Texas blue for the first time in decades,Politico reports.[/h]Bird’s new organization, “Battleground Texas,” will target Hispanic voters in the state to try to swing the Lone Star state in the direction of Democrats. Texas has for a long time been a Republican Party stronghold, and its 38 electoral college votes are crucial to any GOP presidential candidate’s run for office. If Texas becomes a battleground or Democratic Party state, Republican presidential candidates may be in dire danger. They’d have to spend time and money campaigning in the state, taking their focus off states that are already hotly contested.
    Bird appears to understand this, and that’s why he’s targeting the state. “With its diversity and size, Texas should always be a battleground state where local elections are vigorously contested and anyone who wants to be our commander in chief has to compete and show they reflect Texas values. Yet for far too long, the state’s political leaders, both in Austin and in Washington, D.C., have failed to stand for Texans,” Bird told Politico. “Over the next several years, Battleground Texas will focus on expanding the electorate by registering more voters — and as importantly, by mobilizing Texans who are already registered voters but who have not been engaged in the democratic process.”
    Politico quoted several anonymous Democratic consultants who said Bird plans to bring in top campaign talent and make a serious effort at competing in the state.
    Republicans, on the other hand, are still regaining their footing after the beat down they endured in the last election cycle – and didn’t have a specific plan when Breitbart News asked for one.
    Republican National Committee spokesman Sean Spicer told Breitbart News though that the GOP is “in the midst of the party's winter meeting down here in Charlotte” where GOP leaders are crafting “the vision and role of the party going forward” including “specifically the ways that we can grow it and win more elections.”
    “Last week the chairman was in Austin meeting with GOP groups on success they have had engaging with Hispanics, Asians and African Americans,” Spicer added.
     
    Top Bottom