SAT 30.06 Signage

[majormadmax]

A while back someone mentioned that the signs at the San Antonio International Airport had changed, we were there earlier today so I thought I'd take some quick pics with my cell phone to show that the signs have indeed been changed to 30.06 ones...

So it no longer states that concealed carry is not allowed in the restricted parts of the terminal (under 46.03), but now in all places inside the building. Of course it's not enforceable being it's city property; but the signs are there...

Cheers! M2

 

[Bithabus]

And, since the wording is wrong, it wouldn't be enforceable anyway.

 

[majormadmax]

How so? it reads exactly as per the DPS web site...

"PURSUANT TO SECTION 30.06, PENAL CODE (TRESPASS BY HOLDER OF A LICENSE TO CARRY A CONCEALED HANDGUN) A PERSON LICENSED UNDER SUBCHAPTER H, CHAPTER 411, GOVERNMENT CODE (CONCEALED HANDGUN LAW), MAY NOT ENTER THIS PROPERTY WITH A CONCEALED HANDGUN."

I only assume the Spanish is correct as well.

I'm still debating whether to point out the fact that it is non-enforceable to airport management. I did find the following POC info on the SAT web site:

GENERAL AIRPORT INFORMATION
(210) 207-3433

Airport Address:
San Antonio International Airport
9800 Airport Blvd.
San Antonio, TX 78216

CUSTOMER SERVICE
Russell Weinman: Customer Experience Manager
(210) 207-3820
Russell.Weinman@sanantonio.gov

 

[Bithabus]

How so? it reads exactly as per the DPS web site...

The posted sign reads "may not enter this property with a concealed weapon"

 

[majormadmax]

So it does...

 

[lalonguecarabine]

Per the TxDPS Website pertaining to 30.06:

Penal Code Section 30.06(c)(3)(B) further states that a sign must meet the following requirements:

1. includes the language described by Paragraph (A) in both English and Spanish;
2. appears in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height; and
3. is displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public.

I wonder if the fact that it's white letters on a clear surface (as opposed to contrasting colors) adds anything to the unenforceability?

 

[Bithabus]

I wonder if the fact that it's white letters on a clear surface (as opposed to contrasting colors) adds anything to the unenforceability?

This may be the most unenforceable 30.06 sign in Texas

 

[San Antone RR]

Sssshhhh. Don't say anything.

 

[mikeofcontex]

My brother tells me, "you might beat the rap, but you won't beat the ride." You'll have your weapon taken, acquire a set of cuffs, have help getting in the back of a car, pay your lawyer, and waste a lot of time. Even if wrong, the sign will be enforced based on my experience.

 

[majormadmax]

Which is why it is better to be proactive and inform them it is not legal. Maybe someone will have an epiphany and have it removed...

 

[Renegade]

My brother tells me, "you might beat the rap, but you won't beat the ride." You'll have your weapon taken, acquire a set of cuffs, have help getting in the back of a car, pay your lawyer, and waste a lot of time. Even if wrong, the sign will be enforced based on my experience.

I would be pretty surprised if the cops who worked their didn't know it was legal to CHL there.

 

[Bithabus]

I would be pretty surprised if the cops who worked their didn't know it was legal to CHL there.

I would be shocked if they did.

 

[Renegade]

I would be shocked if they did.

Cops aren't as stupid as the Internet wants you to believe.

 

[Bithabus]

Cops aren't as stupid as the Internet wants you to believe.

In my personal experience most cops understanding of gun laws is superficial at best. I am always happy to find a counterexample, however.

 

[majormadmax]

In my personal experience most cops understanding of gun laws is superficial at best. I am always happy to find a counterexample, however.

Have you not met TexasCop2?

 

[Bithabus]

Have you not met TexasCop2?

I said "most cops".

Honestly, do you think most of the Police at the airport know that sign is meaningless?

 

[lalonguecarabine]

Forecast:
Shitstorm on the horizon.

 

[Mic]

By all means, you cannot compare TC2 to the average cop on the street. He is a knowledgeable lover for firearms. Your average police officer is not. Don't forget, while our favorite topic is weapons, there are 800,000,000 laws out there. Cops aren't going to know them all in detail. While firearms is probably higher on their list of priorities to know, I doubt they will know the CHL statute well enough to catch the weapons, vice handguns or that the letters might now be contrasting enough.

And to be honest, with a sign that close, I'd say you were pushing your luck to assume its unenforceable. Sure, the handgun with a circle through it will probably not get you anything more than a cursory hassle by a police officer if they were to find you carrying. But this sign is damn near correct. I wouldn't mess with it.

 

[Texan2]

there are several on this board that know better.

 

[Bithabus]

there are several on this board that know better.

What would be the best way for a CHL holder to handle a situation like this? If someone with a valid CHL went to the airport to pick up a traveler and his handgun got noticed by an Officer who misunderstands the law, what should the CHL carrier say?