Ship Direct To CHL Holder

[kabob]

Within the same state, they can send the new owner a 4473, said new owner fills it out and mails it back. After a 7-day wait period, the firearm can then be shipped direct to the new owner. That's how Silencer Shop in Austin does business with others in Texas.

http://www.silencershop.com/buying-options/

 

[Acera]

Wow, nice job superchief, good post.

 

[kabob]

superchief to the rescue with the legal mumbo jumbo

 

[okie556]

10-4 on the Great Post Superchief! May be a stupid question but how does one determine who is the CLEO or Principal LEO in your hometown. Is it your County Sheriff or City Police Chief?

 

[Vaquero]

Learn something new everyday.
Awesome info superchief!

 

[London]

Superchief- You're name is appropriate.

 

[GPtwins]

here is a link to Form 4473 and this is the same one I filled out just last week when I bought a Ruger 10/22. I do not see how anything in the document can be construed to include shipping firearms directly to a Texas CHL holder. http://www.atf.gov/files/forms/download/atf-f-4473-1.pdf

 

[matefrio]

here is a link to Form 4473 and this is the same one I filled out just last week when I bought a Ruger 10/22. I do not see how anything in the document can be construed to include shipping firearms directly to a Texas CHL holder. http://www.atf.gov/files/forms/download/atf-f-4473-1.pdf

You did an over the counter sale. This is for non over the counter sales.
https://www.atf.gov/sites/default/files/assets/pdf-files/procedure-2013-2.pdf
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...=9tYS82QQX9u3_7bJWGAtVQ&bvm=bv.64125504,d.b2I

 

[matefrio]

Found the following

ATF?s 12-Step Program for Non-over-the-counter Firearm Sales - Gun News, News By The Barrel

(GunNews.com) — The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has issued a record-keeping procedure for non-over-the-counter firearm sales by licensees to unlicensed in-state residents that are NICS exempt.
The purpose of ATF Proc. 2013-2 is to give guidance to licensed importers, manufacturers and Federal Firearms Licensee retailers “on how to record the sale of a firearm to an unlicensed person who”:
a) Has a valid alternate permit or otherwise is exempt from National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) requirements;
b) Resides in the same State as the licensee; and
c) Does not appear in person at the licensee’s business premises.
Basically, this procedure follows the out-of-print requirements of the old ATF Form 4473, Part II, for non-over-the-counter transactions.
Procedure: A licensed importer, manufacturer, or dealer may record and conduct the sale of a firearm to a resident of the same state who does not appear in person at the licensed business premises using ATF Form 4473, Part I, provided the transfer is exempt from the NICS requirements, pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 922(t)(3) and 27 CFR 478.102(d), and the procedures below are followed:
1. The buyer must properly complete and execute Section A of ATF Form 4473, Part I, as if the firearm was being transferred over-the-counter;
2. Pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 922(c)(1) and 27 CFR 478.96(b), the buyer must execute and attach to the Form 4473 a sworn statement in the format prescribed by 18 U.S.C. 922(c)(1) (set forth above), and, as applicable, a true copy signed and dated by the buyer of the valid alternate permit that qualifies as a NICS exception, and any other documentation required pursuant to State statute or published ordinance;
3. The buyer must send the original ATF Form 4473 and attachment(s) to the licensee. The licensee must then complete the remaining portions of the form as if the firearm was being transferred over-the-counter;
4. The licensee must document the applicable NICS exception in Section B of the ATF Form 4473;
5. The licensee is permitted to omit recording identifying information (type of identification, number on identification, expiration date of identification) in Section B. However, if the buyer is a nonimmigrant alien, the licensee must record the type of documentation showing an exception to the nonimmigrant alien prohibition.
6. Neither the licensee nor the purchaser should complete Section C of the ATF Form 4473;
7. The licensee must complete Section D. In addition, the licensee must record the words “Non over the counter transaction” at the top of the first page of the ATF Form 4473;
8. Pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 922(c)(2) and 27 CFR 478.96(b), the licensee must, prior to shipment or delivery of the firearm, forward by registered or certified mail (return receipt requested) a copy of the Form 4473, sworn statement, and valid alternate permit or other required information to the chief law enforcement officer (CLEO) named on such statement;
9. Pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 922(c)(3) and 27 CFR 478.96(b), the licensee must delay shipment or delivery of the firearm for at least seven days following receipt by the licensee of either the return receipt evidencing delivery of the copy of the Form 4473, to the CLEO, or the return of the copy of the Form 4473 to the licensee due to refusal of the CLEO to accept the same in accordance with U.S. Postal Service regulations;
10. The licensee must retain the original Form 4473, Part I, sworn statement, NICS exemption documentation, and evidence of receipt or rejection of delivery of the information sent to the CLEO as a part of the records required to be kept by the licensee under the provisions of 27 CFR Subpart H, including 478.129 and 478.131;
11. The licensee must record the firearms disposition in the licensee’s acquisition and disposition record in accordance with 27 CFR 478.122, 478.123, or 478.125 (as applicable); and
12. The licensee must report any multiple sales or other disposition of pistols or revolvers on ATF Form 3310.4 in accordance with 27 CFR 478.126a. In addition, the licensee must report any multiple sales or other disposition of certain rifles on ATF Form 3310.12 in accordance with 18 U.S.C. 923(g)(5)(A), as applicable.

http://www.atf.gov/regulations-rulings/procedures/index.html

 

[Renegade]

Seller is a FFL requiring a form 4473. The claim is that you can fill the 4473 out at home and get it shipped to you from what I understand.

Claim is correct.

 

[benenglish]

I love learning new things.

 

[matefrio]

Claim is correct.

Further reading the ATF is currently ignoring requests for new copies of the 4473 part II from all reports. Some folks may have some collecting dust though.

 

[vmax]

its a trap

 

[Renegade]

Further reading the ATF is currently ignoring requests for new copies of the 4473 part II from all reports. Some folks may have some collecting dust though.

You are allowed to use copies. Almost nobody goes for this option, it adds 7 days and gives CLEO notification.

 

[matefrio]

You are allowed to use copies. Almost nobody goes for this option, it adds 7 days and gives CLEO notification.

Yep, see above I figured that out above. I doubt many FFLs even know of the option though. But I know several FFLs who think you must be 21 to buy a handgun private sale as well.