Been there did that in that area over 30 years ago. You learn quickly if you want to survive that paying attention to detail matters.People just don’t know. Ain’t their fault. Military, le, security, many over dramatize because it’s human nature to love attention.
I’m nothing special. Just been good at surviving. My current job is a human target; armored driver/guard in South Dallas. I realized how little I knew before. A lot of it can only be taught by handling a situation and improving on it for the next time unfortunately.
I often tell people now that the best training methods aren’t always with guns. It’s working hard to be alert, see danger before it gets too close, learning patterns criminals have, NOT avoiding eye contact, all things that’s easy to say but methods can’t really be articulated until after dealing with them.
I agree but many people don't. Witness how even some folks here on TGT are so dismissive of any instructor who hasn't carried a badge or spent time in a war zone.Best advice I can give new shooters taking any class is don’t attend if instructors get over tactical, intense, and act as know it all operators. Some are full of hot air and couldn’t teach a dog to lick his own nuts.
My guy said to tell ya -I don’t think of a Maverick 88 as a cheap shoty. In-expensive yes, cheap no.
When used properly those things are like the Energizer Bunny. They just keep going & going.
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I'm terrible with a shotgun, the proverbial "couldn't hit the side of a barn if I was standing inside." What little experience I have is with a Model 12.Imagine my disillusionment when I first tried to use my Moss 500 in 3-gun competition and discovered that the action won't cycle if I held pressure back on the slide while pulling the trigger. I had such a puzzled look that a fellow shooter informed me that on that particular pump gun, you have to push the slide forward or at least hold it in place while pulling the trigger. No pre-loading of the action for rapid fire.
It’s case by case.I agree but many people don't. Witness how even some folks here on TGT are so dismissive of any instructor who hasn't carried a badge or spent time in a war zone.
The OP is a rant. I would call your soliloquy more along the way of thinking out loud, or " musing". A very positive form of rambling.I’m rambling.
op is always a ramblerThe OP is a rant. I would call your soliloquy more along the way of thinking out loud, or " musing". A very positive form of rambling.
I agree but many people don't. Witness how even some folks here on TGT are so dismissive of any instructor who hasn't carried a badge or spent time in a war zone.
Again TQs are PROVEN in the field. The data on how lives are lost in combat shows simply bleeding out, from bleeds that could have been controlled with a TQ or packing are significant.>
I criticize them mainly (only) on topics of pump shotguns and tourniquets.
Our Baby is a Police Detective, firearms instructor, and alternate range manager. An Alum of Austin Westlake High.
We support our LEO’s and will back them in an emergency.
I watch & learn from Ayoub & others, love the videos. Just that I’ve never seen a Cop operate a pump properly in one of those videos.
And, from my standpoint, it is not “ignorant”.
I often use both PD & SO ranges, treat those Guys to lunch, and have them in our home w/ “Baby”. I get lots of advice on rifles from them.
BTW, “Baby” is a 46yo USMC M.P. Sergeant, now semi-permanently attached to ATF. He has 4 children and we finally talked him out of SWAT, but he still goes on “forced entries” for the Feds. And, Baby uses an 870SF properly when hunting. Back when he was a “Patrol” Officer & did traffic stops, I gave him my 870 Police Folder, which he sling carried up to stopped vehicles.
Thank you for your service in the PRoTC.
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Appreciate the compliment.I'm the opposite. Much of the time, former LEO & SPEC-OPS instructors don't teach things that the general public can apply to their lives. I find instructors with a background in executive protection or general security tend to offer more applicable knowledge. I'd take one of Sam's classes in a heartbeat.
Yeah...not buyin that, either.
If your brother lived his life the way he wanted, and it sure sounds like he did, it wasn't 'wasted' at all imo, except maybe by others' judgements.
If you want to know what someone wants - just look around at what they have.
Well, crap - now we're really off your topic, but it's your thread so there ya go.
Of course tourniquets are useful if and when needed. I just think their use is overstressed for civilian use.Again TQs are PROVEN in the field. The data on how lives are lost in combat shows simply bleeding out, from bleeds that could have been controlled with a TQ or packing are significant.
Your experience and abilities in a hospital setting does not carry over to what is practical to do in the field.
Military and police focus on TQs, packing wounds and chest seals is because it is simple and fast to apply and it deals with the greatest threat to them dying before they can get to a hospital with nearly no risk of additional harm if it wasn't needed..
TQs are far from the only option in the field, pressure, packing, chest seals are all trained, practiced and used, to great effect, greater effect than anything short of a trauma surgeon with an OR and a suite of tools and a huge team... but try lugging that around in your pockets.
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Maybe not. I’m going to order one for work and most of my work stuff stays in my car. I only leave gear in the car because where I travel to are secure locations. Work, church (safety team watches) and home. Now…civilians might want to get trained up on using a tourniquet. It can take what…18 seconds and you can pass out and die? Under 20 seconds…and it could be over. Now, I’m sure the odds are astronomically low depending on where you live you would need one but consider you may need one without getting into a gun fight. Hiking, camping, working, gun fire that ain’t intended for you. Shit happens. Food for thought. It’s medical equipment not tactical gear.Of course tourniquets are useful if and when needed. I just think their use is overstressed for civilian use.
Maybe not. I’m going to order one for work and most of my work stuff stays in my car. I only leave gear in the car because where I travel to are secure locations. Work, church (safety team watches) and home. Now…civilians might want to get trained up on using a tourniquet. It can take what…18 seconds and you can pass out and die? Under 20 seconds…and it could be over. Now, I’m sure the odds are astronomically low depending on where you live you would need one but consider you may need one without getting into a gun fight. Hiking, camping, working, gun fire that ain’t intended for you. Shit happens. Food for thought. It’s medical equipment not tactical gear.
You too hope you and the family have a wonderful Christmas.My original point was not that tourniquets “don’t work”; that is a “straw man”.
From what I have learned during my lifetime in Emergency Medicine and Vascular Intervention, including some two decades of teaching young Physicians, plus 7 years as a USAR Army Physician; I try to make two points:
1). Respiratory airway emergencies are hundreds of times more frequent than any real need for a tourniquet in civilian outpatient emergency management.
2). Most Physicians & Surgeons recommend layperson control of active bleeding by direct compression applied just above a bleeder, towards the heart. This method is usually effective; and is much, much less likely to cause the serious permanent injuries associated with tourniquets.
My comments were not intended to apply to military battlefields.
I wish you-all a nice & peaceful Christmas.
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Maybe not. I’m going to order one for work and most of my work stuff stays in my car. I only leave gear in the car because where I travel to are secure locations. Work, church (safety team watches) and home. Now…civilians might want to get trained up on using a tourniquet. It can take what…18 seconds and you can pass out and die? Under 20 seconds…and it could be over. Now, I’m sure the odds are astronomically low depending on where you live you would need one but consider you may need one without getting into a gun fight. Hiking, camping, working, gun fire that ain’t intended for you. Shit happens. Food for thought. It’s medical equipment not tactical gear.
>The part that gets me with these "experts" trauma kits is that they have the TQs, chest seals, and QuikClot.....but they have nothing to treat a basic cut. They carry these packs for major wounds, but neglect packing bandaids, alcohol swabs, hand sanitizer, or triple-antibiotic ointment.
Which injuries are you and your family most likely to encounter on a daily basis?
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To answer, are we talking minor “emergencies”, or unanticipated life-threatening events ?
And, where will those be; home or travel ?
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