So, Admit It, You Want 87,000 More IRS Agents

[Sam7sf]

I hope someone writes off the ammo used to defend themselves from these thugs.

 

[Axxe55]

I hope someone writes off the ammo used to defend themselves from these thugs.

Hmmm...A tax credit for shooting IRS agents! I like it!

 

[glenbo]

There is also this:

Guns of Washington

townhall.com

 

[popsgarland]

There is also this:

Guns of Washington

townhall.com

Hell of an article. Great read. Had a lot of information I did not know about.
I can say only one word.




SCARY.

 

[benenglish]

There is also this:

Guns of Washington

townhall.com

From the article:

- The IRS has stockpiled 4,500 guns and 5 million rounds of ammunition in recent years, including 621 shotguns, 539 long-barrel rifles and 15 submachine guns. If true, an explanation is needed so that conspiracy theories don't multiply.

The explanation is pretty easy.

4500 guns is a bit more than the number of employees they have who are federal LEOs with arrest authority. Every one of them needs a sidearm. Every unit in every podunk LEA at every level of government has a couple of ARs and a couple of shotguns and no one should make a big deal out of that; that explains the shotguns and rifles.

As for the SMGs, I have no personal knowledge. That few, though, tells me that they're probably all in one or two or three places. I'd guess there's a weapons locker with SMGs at the HQ office and maybe a couple of other locations that are believed to be potential targets for a coordinated attack. SMGs might be useful for that. But I'm just pulling that answer out of my behind; I, too, would like to definitively know where those SMGs are and what role is envisioned for them.

 

[Wudidiz]

From the article:

The explanation is pretty easy.

4500 guns is a bit more than the number of employees they have who are federal LEOs with arrest authority. Every one of them needs a sidearm. Every unit in every podunk LEA at every level of government has a couple of ARs and a couple of shotguns and no one should make a big deal out of that; that explains the shotguns and rifles.

As for the SMGs, I have no personal knowledge. That few, though, tells me that they're probably all in one or two or three places. I'd guess there's a weapons locker with SMGs at the HQ office and maybe a couple of other locations that are believed to be potential targets for a coordinated attack. SMGs might be useful for that. But I'm just pulling that answer out of my behind; I, too, would like to definitively know where those SMGs are and what role is envisioned for them.

If the 4000+ were issued firearms (should have already), why stock another 4500?

 

[ZX9RCAM]

From the article....

"the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service modified their Glocks with silencers."

Wut?

 

[kbaxter60]

If your return shows income of $150,000 and the bank shows transactions of $200,000 you are going to get audited.

Heh. It better have a Congresscritter filter on it. Else they'll all get tangled up.

 

[oldag]

If the 4000+ were issued firearms (should have already), why stock another 4500?

They are glocks. So a spare for everyone.

 

[benenglish]

If the 4000+ were issued firearms (should have already), why stock another 4500?

By "stockpile" I believe the article simply means "has in inventory.". They're just looking for scary words, like when the anti-gun folks refer to 3 guns and 500 rounds as an "arsenal."

 

[Wudidiz]

From the article....

"the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service modified their Glocks with silencers."

Wut?

Those criminals fishing without a license need to be taken out without alarming the legal fishermen.

 

[Bozz10mm]

If the 4000+ were issued firearms (should have already), why stock another 4500?

One is none and two is one.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

If the 4000+ were issued firearms (should have already), why stock another 4500?

Maybe they got a new contract with a different manufacturer?

 

[seeker_two]

From the article....

"the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service modified their Glocks with silencers."

Wut?

This is the only one that makes sense. Allows them to put down a sick or injured animal without disturbing the other wildlife.

Border Patrol should have access to the same equipment.....for coyote control, of course....

 

[oldag]

By "stockpile" I believe the article simply means "has in inventory.". They're just looking for scary words, like when the anti-gun folks refer to 3 guns and 500 rounds as an "arsenal."

You must admit, the ammo inventory is extremely large by any measure.

 

[benenglish]

You must admit, the ammo inventory is extremely large by any measure.

Yep. But that sort of thing happens in every government agency due to the "spend it all before the end of the fiscal year or else next year you get cut" budgeting.

 

[oldag]

Yep. But that sort of thing happens in every government agency due to the "spend it all before the end of the fiscal year or else next year you get cut" budgeting.

Then please explain why the ammo budget is so high. Or if this was from a more general budget line item, why did they choose to spend it on ammo and not something else.

No excuse can be made for this.

 

[benenglish]

Then please explain why the ammo budget is so high. Or if this was from a more general budget line item, why did they choose to spend it on ammo and not something else.

No excuse can be made for this.

I have no evidence about the motive behind the ammo budget.

It could be some nefarious plot to ensure that the black helicopter pilots never run low.

It could be as simple as some low-level analyst in DC reading about an ammo shortage and deciding to stock up.

I really have no idea but I'm not going to assume bad intent until we know a lot more.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Then please explain why the ammo budget is so high. Or if this was from a more general budget line item, why did they choose to spend it on ammo and not something else.

No excuse can be made for this.

I don’t think the ammo budget is out of whack at all. 5 million rounds spread across 4500 firearms is only ~1100 rounds.

For shits and giggles, our annual training ammo budget was just under 11K rounds for the M4 and 2800 rounds for the M9. Per person. At the squadron level, it was just under 3M rounds per year for about 200 guys just for training.

No, that doesn’t include blanks, allocations for qualification, and operational employment requirements.

 

[Axxe55]

Then please explain why the ammo budget is so high. Or if this was from a more general budget line item, why did they choose to spend it on ammo and not something else.

No excuse can be made for this.

I have no evidence about the motive behind the ammo budget.

It could be some nefarious plot to ensure that the black helicopter pilots never run low.

It could be as simple as some low-level analyst in DC reading about an ammo shortage and deciding to stock up.

I really have no idea but I'm not going to assume bad intent until we know a lot more.

I don’t think the ammo budget is out of whack at all. 5 million rounds spread across 4500 firearms is only ~1100 rounds.

For shits and giggles, our annual training ammo budget was just under 11K rounds for the M4 and 2800 rounds for the M9. Per person. At the squadron level, it was just under 3M rounds per year for about 200 guys just for training.

No, that doesn’t include blanks, allocations for qualification, and operational employment requirements.

I have to agree with @oldag on this. When did the IRS become such a dangerous job that such weapons and amounts of ammo that large are needed? When did tax evaders beome dangerous criminals?