Springfield Armory Hellcat

[zackmars]

Nope. Also only own one of their guns. I'm just against the spread of misinformation in general.


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Nope, that's just stupid.



As is that statement. They made a massive effort to apologize.



No, not really.

You know what I think? From your comment's it's very clear that you just hate SA guns in general. You probably wouldn't buy one of these guns regardless of whether that incident had happened or not. All it did was give you a new reason to bash on them.

Go aheadx find more, because the only one that had any potential to prove your point is the one that was never updated.


I don't like SAI because the owners are scumbags who go out of their way to lie about their history "since 1792" or pull stunts like dropping opposistion to gun bills.

I think their 1911's and AR's are ok, but their marketing strategy is mind numbingly retarded.

I'd happily consider buying a SAI product, as soon as they pull a ruger, and get some smarter people on board.

And as far as glock being overpriced.

Glock is a higher quality firearm, and the sheer amount of support the factory provides the end user is insane.

If glock was overpriced, they wouldn't be as big as they are now

 

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[Maverick44]

Go aheadx find more, because the only one that had any potential to prove your point is the one that was never updated.


I don't like SAI because the owners are scumbags who go out of their way to lie about their history "since 1792" or pull stunts like dropping opposistion to gun bills.

I think their 1911's and AR's are ok, but their marketing strategy is mind numbingly retarded.

I'd happily consider buying a SAI product, as soon as they pull a ruger, and get some smarter people on board.

And as far as glock being overpriced.

Glock is a higher quality firearm, and the sheer amount of support the factory provides the end user is insane.

If glock was overpriced, they wouldn't be as big as they are now

Glock is not a higher quality gun. It's a good design that was the first polymer pistol to be a major success, and they have incredibly good marketing. That is why they are so big. Today, there are so many reliable guns out there that offer more features that shooters want for less than what Glock is asking. If you want to buy them, that's fine. They're still overpriced compared to other guns with similar features.

 

[zackmars]

Glock is not a higher quality gun. It's a good design that was the first polymer pistol to be a major success, and they have incredibly good marketing. That is why they are so big. Today, there are so many reliable guns out there that offer more features that shooters want for less than what Glock is asking. If you want to buy them, that's fine. They're still overpriced compared to other guns with similar features.

From what i have seen, glock absolutely is a higher quality gun. Less issues out of the box, better CS, amd better factory support.

Not one other company has anything like GSSF.

No other company will give you close to $100 in parts for free for sending in a stripped slide to have night sights installed.

Is glock perfect? No, but they dont make a gun that potentially needs to get sent back to the factory with a round in the chamber

I've mentioned plenty of other companies besides glock. Companies that also upstage SAI's product

 

[Maverick44]

From what i have seen, glock absolutely is a higher quality gun. Less issues out of the box, better CS, amd better factory support.

Not one other company has anything like GSSF.

No other company will give you close to $100 in parts for free for sending in a stripped slide to have night sights installed.

Is glock perfect? No, but they dont make a gun that potentially needs to get sent back to the factory with a round in the chamber

I've mentioned plenty of other companies besides glock. Companies that also upstage SAI's product

Glock is not a higher quality gun, and I'm not saying that SA is the best either. I stand by my opinion that Glocks are overpriced.

 

[diesel1959]

The silly part about this entire pillow fight is that the Hellcat--the subject of this thread--does NOT have a grip safety. There is no reason to turn this thread into something that it's not. Just saying.

 

[zackmars]

Glock is not a higher quality gun, and I'm not saying that SA is the best either. I stand by my opinion that Glocks are overpriced.

I guess you have data proving glock is not a higher quality gun? Im not a betting man, but I'd wager i see more guns than you do

I also see a lot of problems, and I've seen every kinda pistol and every kind of malfunction out there, and its a 2 way tie between hi points and XD's. Oddly enough the issues are about 75% of the time releated to the magazines

Technically 1911's are the winner but i dont record the manufacturer. Those FMK guns are also terrible, but ive only seen 2 total

I get that you like SAI, but the XD series is the definition of overpriced, all while lacking the quality to hang with other "lower end" options like canik

 

[Maverick44]

I guess you have data proving glock is not a higher quality gun? Im not a betting man, but I'd wager i see more guns than you do

I also see a lot of problems, and I've seen every kinda pistol and every kind of malfunction out there, and its a 2 way tie between hi points and XD's. Oddly enough the issues are about 75% of the time releated to the magazines

Technically 1911's are the winner but i dont record the manufacturer. Those FMK guns are also terrible, but ive only seen 2 total

I get that you like SAI, but the XD series is the definition of overpriced, all while lacking the quality to hang with other "lower end" options like canik

I highly doubt that I could post anything that would change your mind, no matter how convincing it was. I also highly doubt you could post anything convincing enough to change mine. How about we just agree to disagree?

You keep your cocks, and I'll stick to my XDM. Fair enough?

 

[zackmars]

The silly part about this entire pillow fight is that the Hellcat--the subject of this thread--does NOT have a grip safety. There is no reason to turn this thread into something that it's not. Just saying.

No one was really arguing about the grip safety being on or off this pistol, just that it was on the older models.

It'd be really nice if they removed it fro

I highly doubt that I could post anything that would change your mind, no matter how convincing it was. I also highly doubt you could post anything convincing enough to change mine. How about we just agree to disagree?

You keep your cocks, and I'll stick to my XDM. Fair enough?

Well, ypu arent going to change any minds by posting examples that involve aftermarket parts, or reloads.

May want to remember that next time

 

[diesel1959]

Well then, by all means, carry on with your pillow fight! SMDH

 

[Maverick44]

Well then, by all means, carry on with your pillow fight! SMDH

Some people just can't take a hint that the argument is over.

 

[Maverick44]

Back to the topic...

I'm diggin that OSP model. That might be some fun to play around with.

https://www.springfield-armory.com/hellcat-features/

https://www.ballisticmag.com/2019/09/25/springfield-hellcat-9mm-pistol-first-look/

 

[vmax]

Nah, they're better than a Glock

 

[Gilbertc13]

Back to the topic...

I'm diggin that OSP model. That might be some fun to play around with.

https://www.springfield-armory.com/hellcat-features/

https://www.ballisticmag.com/2019/09/25/springfield-hellcat-9mm-pistol-first-look/

My personal stance aside, I think it’s nice that more companies are bringing an optic ready version to their pistols when they first come to market. I’ve only seen pictures with the shield rms posted, I wonder what one would look like with an RMR mounted on top.


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[sidebite252]

The silly part about this entire pillow fight is that the Hellcat--the subject of this thread--does NOT have a grip safety. There is no reason to turn this thread into something that it's not. Just saying.

Man I wouldn’t know what to do if we didn’t highjack a thread!

As a guy who chooses to carry the XDs I’m curious to see & hold one of these Hellcats. All you SA haters flame away! I’m gonna round up some bacon & eggs for breakfast

 

[SQLGeek]

I open a thread to read about how Springfield copied the souped up Dodge Charger and I find a Glock slap fight going on.

Don't change TGT. Don't ever change.

 

[TheMailMan]

Oh, and I find it funny that you call the XD an overpriced gun, but you're just fine with Glock. A lot of cheaper guns offer more than what they do, and have the common decency to not put PLASTIC sights on a $500+ fighting gun.

Glock should be selling for about the same as what the old S&W Sigmas sold for.

Canik comes to mind. The ONE series can be had for $303 out the door here in Texas. It comes with metal sights and a MUCH better trigger than a Glock.

 

[zaitcev]

But the XD has a grip safety that can break, and you will be unable to retract the slide at all.

Good news! The Hellcat does not have a grip safety.

 

[Younggun]

May look in to it. Would prefer a bump in mag capacity over the Shield.


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[majormadmax]

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