If you question the truth you are labelled an apologist.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/60502...ssors-claim-syria-chemical-attacks-were-fake/
The volunteers are basically Al Quida. WTF? Where do they find some of these people?
There was NO LIE about WMD in Iraq. There were NUMEROUS TONS of SARIN, NITROGEN MUSTARD, LEWISITE & another version of an "unidentified" poison gas in Iraq at the start of the War in Iraq. = My EX-BIL was there as "an official observer" & watched over 20 TONS of lethal chemical agents being destroyed out in the desert. - Frank believes that at least one "freight train load" of sarin (and perhaps other lethal chemical agents) was sent to Syria, just ahead of our attack on Saddam's regime.
Right after the forum shifted to the new software, my ignore list was empty. Now I add 1 almost every day.
Do you have that guy up there? ^^^I've got more than a few myself TxStetson, we should compare lists!
Hell I put 2 on from this thread.I've got more than a few myself TxStetson, we should compare lists!
David Kay, i.e. the person in charge of the Iraq Survey Group and presumably your ex-BIL's ultimate boss, said there weren't any and the pre-war intel was fundamentally flawed (in his own words, we were all wrong). He worked for the Bush administration so he had all the incentive to justify the casus belli by finding actual WMD's: Here is his senate testimony transcript: https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//NSAEBB/NSAEBB80/kaytestimony.pdf
Relevant quote: "I believe that the effort that has been directed to this point has been sufficiently intense that it is highly unlikely that there were large stockpiles of deployed, militarized chemical weapons there."
Note the final ISG report did not address the rumors of WMD's being shipped to neighboring countries, because they were exactly that, rumors and hearsay without the slightest bit of proof. Let's not resurrect decades-old tall tales to justify current events.
Assad already won this current war so he has no reason to use chemical weapons on anybody. The proof of Assad culpability presented to the public is literally non-existent. I for one refuse to buy the myth that the government has some secret knowledge that justifies these airstrikes. I have seen that stunt far too many times.
David Kay, i.e. the person in charge of the Iraq Survey Group and presumably your ex-BIL's ultimate boss, said there weren't any and the pre-war intel was fundamentally flawed (in his own words, we were all wrong). He worked for the Bush administration so he had all the incentive to justify the casus belli by finding actual WMD's: Here is his senate testimony transcript: https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//NSAEBB/NSAEBB80/kaytestimony.pdf
Relevant quote: "I believe that the effort that has been directed to this point has been sufficiently intense that it is highly unlikely that there were large stockpiles of deployed, militarized chemical weapons there."
Note the final ISG report did not address the rumors of WMD's being shipped to neighboring countries, because they were exactly that, rumors and hearsay without the slightest bit of proof. Let's not resurrect decades-old tall tales to justify current events.
Assad already won this current war so he has no reason to use chemical weapons on anybody. The proof of Assad culpability presented to the public is literally non-existent. I for one refuse to buy the myth that the government has some secret knowledge that justifies these airstrikes. I have seen that stunt far too many times.
dmancornell,
You, like any number of other self-impressed folks, presume too much. = Frank was at that time a COL/06 of USJAGC, was present to document Crimes Against Humanity/Crimes Against Peace & was immediately subordinate/reported directly to the Chairman of the JCS.
(He is now retired & "double-dipping" as a "Special Executive Assistant" to a senior Flag at DoD.)
While Frank & I are no particular fans of each other (He's never forgiven me for taking my kid sister's side in their "marital discord". ImVho, he often fits the description of a Sweet Old Boy & is insufferably arrogant, too.), I've never known him to lie. = You can take what he said that he personally witnessed to the bank
yours, satx
I am sorry, but your assertions on Iraq are so idiotic. Do you not recall there was even a UN program trying to rid Iraq of WMD's??? And the UN is hardly a US puppet.
Do you not know that Saddam used WMD's (chemical weapons) against not only Iran but also on his own people when they rose up against him? This is well documented even by the liberal media.
I will post some other info below.
Sorry, none of your posts constitute evidence of the existence of a WMD program.
You have a story written based on a personal anecdote on liquid filled artillery shells, without chemical analysis, a responsibility which ISG is charged with (and they testified to have found no active WMD program). Next, a quote by Christopher Hitchens, whom I respect as a potent polemicist but even he admitted the WMD program argument was a dead end and instead argued in favor of the war as a the proper response to politicized Islam (see his updated defense of the invasion here: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2008/03/how_did_i_get_iraq_wrong_11.html). And finally, a story on yellowcake, which cannot be weaponized without a reactor, which Iraq never has never operated, and none were found to be operating in secret after the war.
Feel free to post more, I am simply pointing out that US intelligence agencies came to an absolutely wrong conclusion the last time they were asked to justify a war, and it would be wise to demand more proof before this nation makes any more decisions based on their conclusions.
And I can post more reports if your ignorance persists, dmancornell.