Texas Nationalist group rallies for secession

[HIGH_PLAINS]

I'm all for it.

The modern day U.S. government, with it's push for all sorts of crazy things like gay "marriage", open door immigration policies, socialized medicine, TSA groping, abortion, and anti-Christian policies in general really doesn't reflect Texas culture and Texas values.

Not to mention that the United States is on the verge of total financial collapse (USA debt clock), we have to be realistic here about protecting what's ours...

While we still can, that is.

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Texas Nationalist group rallies for secession

"Texas can take better care of itself than Washington," said Lauren Savage, vice president of the movement. "We are here to raise interest in the Legislature of the possibility of secession to cure the ills of America."

Members are demanding that state lawmakers introduce a bill that would allow Texans to vote on whether to declare independence.

Texas Nationalist Movement

 

[texas skeeter]

Yeah High Plains i'd be all for it as well if it could/would happen with-out a bloody fight with the GVNMNT!! 1 state couldnt win a war against the U.S. military. but just think about it, a border fence around the "Country of Texas", and having gathered up and THROWN out all the Illegal Immigrants and LIBERALS that ruined this country by their voting record, and ENDING all crime by using an eye for an eye rule of law etc..... this would be a safe great place to live!! I can tell you this, there'd be no more murders and crime if the bad guys were shown they'd be put to death IMMEDIATELY once convicted!! and NO ACLU, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson types and all those other bleeding hearts for criminal dirtbags running around!!

 

[308nato]

I keep thinking of JERICO and the folks heading for Texas.
I keep thinking more ammo ,more ammo.

 

[lalonguecarabine]

...just a nice dream.
*sigh*

 

[Texasjack]

As I've said before, time to cut loose the lifeboat before the Titanic sinks.

 

[texas skeeter]

As I've said before, time to cut loose the lifeboat before the Titanic sinks.

doesnt it just ERK THE F-CK OUT OF YOU that some states hold their own? and others DRAG DOWN THE REST OF THE COUNTRY!!!!!!! and who exactly runs those BROKE A$$ states again?? oh yeah LIBERALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Alamo Ann]

The News Release and the Plebiscite:

NEWS RELEASE
March 3, 2011
BILL ON TEXAS SECESSION PRESENTED
TO TEXAS LEGISLATURE
AUSTIN -- The Texas Nationalist Movement will host a rally at the state capitol Saturday urging lawmakers to put the matter of Texas independence before the state's voters in a non-binding plebiscite.

The resolution, drawn up as a concurrent resolution of the Legislature, spells out actions by the federal government which have intruded on the sovereignty of the State of Texas and calls for the plebiscite to be included on the ballot of the next scheduled election for state constitutional amendments. That date is Nov. 8 of this year.

The rally is scheduled from 1-4 p.m. Saturday on the south steps of the State Capitol in Austin. The legislative sponsor of the rally is State Rep. Leo Berman (R-Tyler).

"The elected representatives of the people of Texas need to know what the voters think," TNM president Daniel Miller said. "That is the purpose of this resolution, simply to give our legislators a sense of what the people of Texas think about the actions they are taking in defense of state sovereignty."

Miller said that state officials and lawmakers have done well in attempting to defend the state's sovereignty from federal intrusion, and that this plebescite could help further the goal of reining in federal over-reach.

"The elections last November showed that a lot of people, not only in Texas but across the United States, believe that our federal government is out of control," Miller said. "Even though the power in Congress changed hands, however, Washington continues to try and bully Texas and other states with rules and regulations never voted on by any elected representatives of the people and in clear violation of the Tenth Amendment, which guarantees state sovereignty."

"Simply allowing the people of Texas to vote on this issue in a non-binding way would send a very loud, very clear message to Washington that Texas won't be pushed any farther."

The resolution spells out that the vote would be "non-binding and for advisory purposes only," and that results would be reported not only to state officials, but also to members of Congress and the President.

"We in the Texas Nationalist Movement believe that independence is necessary for the economic and cultural survival of the people of Texas," Miller said. "Even so, there is nothing more any of us would like to see than the United States government steer away from its current path of self-implosion and return to the original intent and purpose of government as defined by the U.S. Constitution."

The text of the resolution:

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A RESOLUTION FOR A STATE PLEBISCITE ON THE ISSUE OF INDEPENDENCE

Whereas, The Republic of Texas originally won its independence from Mexico in 1836;

Whereas, prior to acceptance of the joint resolution of the Congress of the United States, Texas existed as an independent republic for a period of nine years until 1845;

Whereas, upon accepting admission as one of the United States, Texas remained a free and independent State subject only to the Constitution of the United States;

Whereas, the United States Federal Government has passed laws requiring expenditures of the State and People of Texas that are unfunded by the federal government in violation of the Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution;

Whereas, the United States Federal Government has caused the intentional devaluation of its currency with its reckless spending and borrowing threatening the economic survival of Texas;

Whereas, the United States government has allowed the use of its authority, credit and good will for the benefit of private and foreign concerns in violation of its own constitution;

Whereas, the United States Federal Government has repeatedly failed and refused to guard the border between the State of Texas and the country of Mexico, which has led to and required vast expenditures by the State of Texas to protect its citizens;

Whereas, the United States Federal Government has implemented thousands of laws, mandates and agencies in violation of the United States Constitution that have invaded the sovereignty of the State of Texas;

Whereas, Article 1 Section 1 of the State of Texas Constitution states that “the perpetuity of the union depends on the right of local self-government unimpaired to all of the States”;

Whereas, Article 1 Section 2 of the State of Texas Constitution states that “all political power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their benefit” and “they have at all times the inalienable right to alter, reform or abolish their government in such manner as they may think expedient”;

Whereas, it is desirable and necessary for the Legislature to ascertain the will of the people on continued relationship between Texas and the United States and for that message to be communicated to the United States Federal Government;

Therefore, be it Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the State of Texas assembled, that a plebiscite be conducted at the next regularly scheduled Constitutional amendment election on November 8, 2011, to determine the will of the citizens of the State of Texas regarding a declaration of independence from the government of the United States.

Be it further Resolved that:

The vote of the citizens on the issue of independence be non-binding and advisory only.

That the results of the voting of the citizens of Texas be reported to the Governor and the sitting members of the Legislature of the State of Texas for further consideration in accordance with the wishes of the citizens of the State of Texas.

That the results of the voting also be reported to the both houses of the United States Congress and the President of the United States.

That the wording of the issue to be placed on the ballot shall be as follows:

That the State of Texas should declare its independence from the United States of America and return to a Republican form of government as the Republic of Texas.

FOR: ________________


AGAINST: ______________

Passed and Resolved on this the ____ day of ____________________, 2011 by the House of the State of Texas.


_____________________________________
Speaker

Passed and Resolved on this the ____ day of ____________________, 2011 by the Senate of the State of Texas.


_____________________________________
Speaker



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An Analogy

A woman is joined into a legal marital union with a man; the man becomes increasing emotionally abusive, forces her to work while he plays golf; spends the hours he spends at the house ignoring her needs while amusing himself watching countless hours of ESPN; exploits her daily earnings; carelessly squanders her family inheritance; fails to defend her repeatedly from bodily harm; furthermore, he threatens to shoot her if she ever tries to leave him.

Legally, the woman is in a contractual partnership with this man.
However, in this situation, is she a partner or a HOSTAGE?

 

[just jk]

put me in the "totally against this idea" group

I'm an American WAY before I'm a Texan

my loyalty is to the stars and stripes

 

[cuate]

Strange that this discussion should arise, I being a devout TEXAN and reading and studying our history written by many authors came to the personal belief that we cannot win a war against so many as we learned in 1865 following the War for Southern Independence....The period of US Federal Reconstruction was a horrible period with the likes of "Gov, Davis" ands his crew of crooks, twisting law to line their pockets, yankee soldiers with dictatorial powers to control people and finally the hated "State Police" consisting of former slaves getting "even". The murderous outlaw, John Westley Hardin did permanently remove several of the State Police from the scene which was silently approved by the general population...In summation, it is a war that cannot be won but Texas can tell the Feds to go to hell upon occasion and does ! We are damned if we do and damned if we don't.....

 

[BG1960]

I'd hate to see it come to that,
but at some point you got to say Enough.

Reading parts of the Texas Declaration of Independence this week,
it's hard to remember it was written 175 years ago.

 

[Texan2]

The Texas Nationalists are a bunch of lunatics.....

They are like a car wreck....really jacked up, but we still feel the need to take a look as we go by.

They go on the list with Art Bell, Alex Jones, the Black Panthers, Michael Moore.....nutcases one and all.

 

[Alamo Ann]

Lunatics.....really jacked up....nutcases one and all?

???????????
In a forum which will not allow the discussion of religion (particularly of those of differing world views and often originating out of different nationalities) due to the possibility of uncivil discourse, I think we should AT THE MINIMUM be respectful toward our fellow Texans, and not stereotype them as mentally impaired simply because we may or may not embrace their ideology.

 

[texas skeeter]

come on Ann, this is the "Do as I say and not as I Do" crowd here!!

 

[Alamo Ann]

TS, i shall never surrender or retreat.

 

[matefrio]

I think we are stronger as a nation no matter how imperfect other states may be.

Texas doesn't even have the balls to legislate open carry, no license concealed cary or join the Firearms Freedom Act right now. If anything Arizona has the momentum.

 

[Texan2]

Lunatics.....really jacked up....nutcases one and all?

???????????
In a forum which will not allow the discussion of religion (particularly of those of differing world views and often originating out of different nationalities) due to the possibility of uncivil discourse, I think we should AT THE MINIMUM be respectful toward our fellow Texans, and not stereotype them as mentally impaired simply because we may or may not embrace their ideology.

so....someone opens up a thread and wants input...I gave mine. Sorry if it isn't complementary to those I consider a bit looney. Perhaps if a thread is started entitled "secessionist supporters only" you won't see anyone disagree with your position.

 

[just jk]

The Texas Nationalists are a bunch of lunatics.....

are any of the members posting here? if not - i dont see an issue

 

[txinvestigator]

???????????
In a forum which will not allow the discussion of religion (particularly of those of differing world views and often originating out of different nationalities) due to the possibility of uncivil discourse, I think we should AT THE MINIMUM be respectful toward our fellow Texans, and not stereotype them as mentally impaired simply because we may or may not embrace their ideology.

Really? You don't really mean that. When we have threads with titles that call people names with cuss words, attack complete groups of "Texans" , etc, THIS is to what you object?

BTW, TexasCop2 is spot on about that group.

If you (speaking in general terms now) support secession then you have not thought it through.

 

[zembonez]

The Texas Nationalists are a bunch of lunatics.....

They are like a car wreck....really jacked up, but we still feel the need to take a look as we go by.

They go on the list with Art Bell, Alex Jones, the Black Panthers, Michael Moore.....nutcases one and all.

Have to agree...

I am a Texan first, and and American second. This is not to say that I am not a loyal and patriotic American, but I love Texas first and foremost. Even so... What these people propose is a trainwreck and a total fantasy. Complete lunatics is how I would categorize them.

 

[MR Redneck]

Secession wont do anything but make matters worse. Those people are entitled to their opinion but I dont agree on the secession part.