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    Me?
    I'll vote for who is an intellectual leader and who is best for this country.
    Trump isn't it. Hillary wasn't either.

    Trump is an immoral, narcissistic, bigoted man.
    I put morality high on my required qualifications.
    Any guy that is banging a porn star (I can't eat mushrooms anytime soon) while his wife is breastfeeding their infant son is irredeemable.

    What bothers me, as a bedrock issue, is that he's just not very bright.

    Trump isn't even close to being Ted Cruz' intellectual equal so he resorted to the schoolyard bully tactic of demeaning name calling. What ever happened to old "Lyin' Ted" Cruz, anyway?
    Our president's 7th grade mental capacity! Great.

    Put Pence in the Oval Office. I was a Cruz supporter over Hillary and Trump.
    I've not altered my attitude one iota.

    You want an intellectual leader? Obama was a great reader. Sounded brilliant. I would have been happy with Trump or Cruz, in that order. When you want to talk brilliance, you sound like the Russian military strategists. You think "a bigger army will win" while Trump thinks like an American, "a better army will win". More brain cells or higher IQ...or sounding smarter...or having more letters behind your name doesn't mean you are better qualified for the job.

    The job of president isn't to prepare you for Jeopardy or running Mensa or curing cancer. It's to manage people, accomplish goals, and make tough decisions under pressure.

    Cruz is brilliant. I'd have liked him on the SCOTUS. But he's not very likeable or electable. He can beat anyone in a debate. But has he managed people? Has he ran a company? Has he managed a budget? Has he made tough, snap decisions? He's been a member of a body that takes 5 years to pass an annual budget. He's part of a group that can't make any decisions quickly or efficiently. He may be smart, but where's his resume of being an executive?

    Trump has run countless companies in some fashion. He's seen failure and recovered. He's made things happen when others couldn't. He's altruistic, but not braggadocios (about his altruism). He got the Central Park rink done in months when the city couldn't do it in years. He's negotiated with foreign governments for business. And, apparently, he's likeable. The Apprentice was a #1 rated show...not just for Republicans. The lovable Arnold took over and it bombed. Trump also has the Ivy League diplomas. Lots of people with fancy diplomas that don't amount to squat.

    As for his tactics, in WW2 we took our best general and used him as a bluff before Normandy. Know your enemy. Know your audience. Most of America isn't educated. Most of America can't pass a 12th grade reading test. Cruz can't dumb it down for middle (or lower) America. People understand name calling. They understand labels and branding. They understand quips and jabs. They snooze on stats and morality. So who's a better debater? The guy who uses bigger words or the guy who wins the debate?

    So, do you want an inexperienced articulate intellectual, or a junk yard dog who gets it done. We already had the former for 8 years. I love Ted, but Trump is the right guy for the job.

    As for immoral, I have a priest. I vote for chief executive, not chief theocrat. I don't look to my president to guide my morality. I want him to manage my country, not gouge me on taxes, keep our country safe from foreign invaders, and protect my liberties. That's about it. I'll take care of my own religion, family, house, food, healthcare, and immediate protection.

    And we have the hottest first lady ever. Remember how amazed the media was with Michelle Obama's arms? WTF? Even Jackie O (with her moral compass JFK at her side) can't compare to Melania..IMO. But that's just a bonus.
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    I consider myself constitutionalist libertarian, but also being a realist I vote republican, because it's the closest to what I believe and has a real chance of winning. The alternative would be to not vote and possibly give the democrats and socialists more ground, and that has been and will be far from what I believe.

    From what I've seen of Trump is that he may be closer to a libertarian than republican and he has certainly, so far, respected the Constitution.

    I'm in the same boat. Pretty much a tried and true libertarian in principle. For the major offices, though, I have to vote Republican. For down ticket, I'll show the support though. For RR Commissioner, or maybe a judge or something, I might vote for the Lib. I believe in minimal government and freedom to choose (and suffer the consequences of your choices).

    The problem is with the voting system. There are systems (forget the names) that are in use in some countries that are more fair than our system. I should be able to vote my conscious so I vote 1: Lib, 2: Rep. Then, if the Libertarian candidate doesn't win, my vote then goes to the R. That is the better way to reflect the TRUE wishes of the people.

    If you have 3 candidates and 2 of them are basically the same, each pull 30% of the vote, and the 3rd pulls 40%, then the minority candidate wins even though 60% of the country believes the other way. That's just dumb. So we hold our nose and vote for the other guy. It's how, allegedly, Perot ruined the election in 92(?). Spoiler candidates splitting the vote.

    With the new computerized voting, my system would be simple to tabulate. And it'd more accurately reflect the will of the people.
     

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    I view the “how pays too much” argument as more identity politics. We bitch about who’s paying what and it distracts from the real issue of spending.


    That said, the new tax bill still puts our corporate tax rate higher than many European nations that most would say have outrageous tax rate. The bill lowered the corporate tax rate but the bulk of taxes will still be paid by a minority of earners.

    It can be argued that for them the income is disposable, but that isn’t a moral argument. It’s an argument that it’s more ok to steal from those who are well off. It doesn’t matter that those well off people are often employing thousands. It doesn’t matter how much of the bill those few are footing. Just as the left will spin things so the lower class can easily have animosity for the middle class. Someone will spin the middle class to have animosity towards the upper class.

    When you look at the numbers we are getting screwed by outrageous spending. If you want lower taxes you should be arguing for decreased spending, not increased taxes on somebody else. And as I’ve said in another post, the sunset was scheduled in a way that guarantees the cuts are renewed. Taxes will not be increased in an election year.


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    The rules made it easier to pass the tax reduction without making the 'middle class' cuts permanent. They are working on taxes 2.0 now to make it permanent. No matter how you want to explain it the top still pays most of the way and probably more when employment is considered. I do have a problem with some of the compensation and the pay of some elements of society , which, affect the middle class more.

    If the MSM were more honest in reporting and do less politicking he wouldn't have to tweet so much. Today that is the only way we can fight the propaganda from the left.

    The left can see the handwriting on the wall. If they lose the Kavanagh appointment and the mid-term they have lost the last 60 years of their progressivism agenda and won't get it back for generations. The Democrats today are showing their immorality as they will lie about any and everything.

    The President has intelligence that can't be measured, in ways people want, but has an uncanny ability to forecast the future. One example is the wiretapping almost a year before we knew it. He is making progress on one of the most important issues in the world today, NOKO nuclear disarmament. The left lies about the progress without any intelligence briefings and swears they are right. His speech at the UN will be talked about forever and was chilling in its content.

    This president will be the greatest President we have ever had and would be even greater if he had a little backing from Congress and the MSM. Their is to much 'me' in politics and the negativity it causes is keeping MAGA and Keep America Great! from becoming 'our' winning.

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    I know, that when corporations got the huge tax break, a lot of them kept it, and it was not used for anything any different, than what they were doing before. That is what my wife's corporation did. They said, thanks for the free money, and that was it.
     

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    I am a results guy. Where is the wall? Why send reservist army to the Border who cannot do anything due to Posse Comitatus. You could send the Marines. That doesn't apply to them.
    The Posse Comitias does not apply, because they are not fighting American citizens, they are fighting invaders. People make a mistake applying this because they think armed military on American soil is covered. This is not the case. Think if the Germans or Japanese had landed on our shore, would we not have repelled them with armed military?

    The wall will get built. It's just that it will take a little longer because the left forgets that in 2006 they wanted it also. There's a new contractor with a new process, one piece, in place, and any terrain, the whole length for $10.2 billion. I hope he gets in touch with Trump.
     
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    For about 3 decades I have voted republican and used to call myself republican. I consider myself constitutionalist libertarian, but also being a realist I vote republican, because it's the closest to what I believe and has a real chance of winning. The alternative would be to not vote and possibly give the democrats and socialists more ground, and that has been and will be far from what I believe.


    From what I've seen of Trump is that he may be closer to a libertarian than republican and he has certainly, so far, respected the Constitution.
    Charles Krauthammer: Interesting take on President Trump
    To my friends "of a different persuasion" I'm not trying to sell anything or anyone but I do feel this is an interesting take on our very controversial president who I truly believe is not Republican or Democrat.
    A TAKE ON DONALD TRUMP
    A different take on Donald Trump: (a non-political agenda. Trump Is Not A Liberal or Conservative, He's a "Pragmatist."
    (Definition: A pragmatist is someone who is practical and focused on reaching a goal. A pragmatist usually has a straightforward, matter-of-fact approach and doesn't let emotion distract him or her.)
     

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    I know, that when corporations got the huge tax break, a lot of them kept it, and it was not used for anything any different, than what they were doing before. That is what my wife's corporation did. They said, thanks for the free money, and that was it.
    You are to negative and would do good to stand back and be a little more objective. Good things are happening
     

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    The Posse Comitias does not apply, because they are not fighting American citizens, they are fighting invaders. People make a mistake applying this because they think armed military on American soil is covered. This is not the case. Think if the Germans or Japanese had landed on our shore, would we not have repelled them with armed military?

    Posse Comitatus historically, if you look it up, was first denied to the Army, then the Airforce, but does not apply to the Navy or the Marines. Yes, I know they are armed. I have received bullets in my direction. Part of the reason I have a hatred of the HK 93 .308 because I was always on the receiving end. If we declared war on Mexico, then it wouldn't matter. Mexico has had an undeclared war with us since I can remember. Their top works for the cartels, and the rank and file love to pop shots at you to drive you off to either hit you or drive you off so they can bring the dope across.

    I was in an undeclared warzone by the United States, but Mexico felt very differently about it. I was young, dumb and wanted to try to kill them back, if I could get a clear shot across the Rio Grande. The Cartel signature assignation on U.S. Border was a modified AK-47. You know, the one's that regular citizens can't own, but the bad guys do. I had just got back to the line after working with the SOG team for 45 days. They were in a U.C. truck and were mistaken for rival dealers, and were lit up with modified AK's. Those that didn't die, got to retire with wheels and a collostome bag.
     

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    You are to negative and would do good to stand back and be a little more objective. Good things are happening

    No. I am objective. I have never ever liked a President since Reagan. I don't follow any cult of personality. Someone can B.S. me until the cows come home. But, until they actually do something productive, I could care less about the comedy Twitter routine. We don't need a Standup Comic in Chief, but a guy like Reagan who got crap done.
     

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    You want an intellectual leader? Obama was a great reader. Sounded brilliant. I would have been happy with Trump or Cruz, in that order. When you want to talk brilliance, you sound like the Russian military strategists. You think "a bigger army will win" while Trump thinks like an American, "a better army will win". More brain cells or higher IQ...or sounding smarter...or having more letters behind your name doesn't mean you are better qualified for the job.

    The job of president isn't to prepare you for Jeopardy or running Mensa or curing cancer. It's to manage people, accomplish goals, and make tough decisions under pressure.

    Cruz is brilliant. I'd have liked him on the SCOTUS. But he's not very likeable or electable. He can beat anyone in a debate. But has he managed people? Has he ran a company? Has he managed a budget? Has he made tough, snap decisions? He's been a member of a body that takes 5 years to pass an annual budget. He's part of a group that can't make any decisions quickly or efficiently. He may be smart, but where's his resume of being an executive?

    Trump has run countless companies in some fashion. He's seen failure and recovered. He's made things happen when others couldn't. He's altruistic, but not braggadocios (about his altruism). He got the Central Park rink done in months when the city couldn't do it in years. He's negotiated with foreign governments for business. And, apparently, he's likeable. The Apprentice was a #1 rated show...not just for Republicans. The lovable Arnold took over and it bombed. Trump also has the Ivy League diplomas. Lots of people with fancy diplomas that don't amount to squat.

    As for his tactics, in WW2 we took our best general and used him as a bluff before Normandy. Know your enemy. Know your audience. Most of America isn't educated. Most of America can't pass a 12th grade reading test. Cruz can't dumb it down for middle (or lower) America. People understand name calling. They understand labels and branding. They understand quips and jabs. They snooze on stats and morality. So who's a better debater? The guy who uses bigger words or the guy who wins the debate?

    So, do you want an inexperienced articulate intellectual, or a junk yard dog who gets it done. We already had the former for 8 years. I love Ted, but Trump is the right guy for the job.

    As for immoral, I have a priest. I vote for chief executive, not chief theocrat. I don't look to my president to guide my morality. I want him to manage my country, not gouge me on taxes, keep our country safe from foreign invaders, and protect my liberties. That's about it. I'll take care of my own religion, family, house, food, healthcare, and immediate protection.

    And we have the hottest first lady ever. Remember how amazed the media was with Michelle Obama's arms? WTF? Even Jackie O (with her moral compass JFK at her side) can't compare to Melania..IMO. But that's just a bonus.
    IMO you nailed my views exactly. Reagan is hard act to follow, but if Trump continues on his course he may become the model of a leader of this country to measure against all others.
     

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    DJT is a business man. He knows a company has to profit or it goes under. He is 'trying' to run the U.S. as a profitable business and keep her from going broke as the libbies want so they can socialize. BUT where will the money come from? The few million that will still have some sort of a job, to pay for all the FREE stuff.
    As long as I can remember every election it has been said we need someone in office that is not a career politician. WE have one, if the RHINO'S, demorats, and media would stop fighting him. And besides he is doing all on his own time and dime since he is getting no pay.
     

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    Posse Comitatus historically, if you look it up, was first denied to the Army, then the Airforce, but does not apply to the Navy or the Marines. Yes, I know they are armed. I have received bullets in my direction. Part of the reason I have a hatred of the HK 93 .308 because I was always on the receiving end. If we declared war on Mexico, then it wouldn't matter. Mexico has had an undeclared war with us since I can remember. Their top works for the cartels, and the rank and file love to pop shots at you to drive you off to either hit you or drive you off so they can bring the dope across.

    I was in an undeclared warzone by the United States, but Mexico felt very differently about it. I was young, dumb and wanted to try to kill them back, if I could get a clear shot across the Rio Grande. The Cartel signature assignation on U.S. Border was a modified AK-47. You know, the one's that regular citizens can't own, but the bad guys do. I had just got back to the line after working with the SOG team for 45 days. They were in a U.C. truck and were mistaken for rival dealers, and were lit up with modified AK's. Those that didn't die, got to retire with wheels and a collostome bag.

    An H&K 93 in .308 would be a rare and interesting beast.
     

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    I just want him to stop blathering how great he is and DO something. A wall? Erasing DAKA that was an illegal Executive Order? Dammit, anything, instead of being like Obama and telling us how wonderful he is. The people I respect don't have to toot their horn, they just have to do what they promised to do, and we can all eat crap or have a feast. At least they DID something.

    To me it is like someone who sat Stateside counting paperclips during wartime for a Colonel, telling me what a wonderful Veteran Butter Bar they were. It doesn't mean crap.

    Now, the SOB in the trenches that shot at the enemy, hell, he did something, and deserves all our respect.

    He may have missed every last damn one of them, but he was still out there with his butt on the line.

    This guy is afraid to make a misstep, and runs his suck.

    I would respect him more if he put his butt on the line and did things. Right or wrong, at least doing SOMETHING.
     

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    I just want him to stop blathering how great he is and DO something. A wall? Erasing DAKA that was an illegal Executive Order? Dammit, anything, instead of being like Obama and telling us how wonderful he is. The people I respect don't have to toot their horn, they just have to do what they promised to do, and we can all eat crap or have a feast. At least they DID something.

    To me it is like someone who sat Stateside counting paperclips during wartime for a Colonel, telling me what a wonderful Veteran Butter Bar they were. It doesn't mean crap.

    Now, the SOB in the trenches that shot at the enemy, hell, he did something, and deserves all our respect.

    He may have missed every last damn one of them, but he was still out there with his butt on the line.

    This guy is afraid to make a misstep, and runs his suck.

    I would respect him more if he put his butt on the line and did things. Right or wrong, at least doing SOMETHING.

    All I can say is you are clueless. He can't fund a wall, only Congress. All he can do is ask. He tried to get rid of DACA and the liberal courts blocked him. NEXT
     

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    All I can say is you are clueless. He can't fund a wall, only Congress. All he can do is ask. He tried to get rid of DACA and the liberal courts blocked him. NEXT

    I’ve already pointed out to him that the wall is already under construction.

    Then again, someone who says a president has done nothing and would be happy if “he had just done something” while simultaneously complaining about the tax cuts we saw...well, not much point in discussing it anymore.





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