TWA Flight 800 investigators break silence in new documentary

[Renegade]

The flight had just taken off on its way to Paris. Pretty sure that would require a full tank.

It has multiple tanks, for a short flight to Paris (3500 miles), the Center Tank would be near empty.

 

[Shorts]

The govt could not keep secret that Devgru killed UBL. Any idea how many people would have to keep the shooting down of a US commercial airliner, over US airspace, a secret. Lol

Well, good question. Without actually taking a position on the event itself but answering the question in a broad sense... I would point towards the difference in political climates, then vs now. Also the difference in technology, cable news and society's appetite for conflict. This event was pre-9/11, when life was relatively innocent <-- I use that word loosely.

 

[Flat Lander]

Shot down on accident by USS Normandy.

 

[Flat Lander]

I was on the pier pulling shore power when they pulled into port after helping with the recovery effort. I would not have believed them if not for the fact that just about the entire crew was reassigned just after that. Not really hard to keep secret, sailors follow orders too.

 

[M. Sage]

All air missiles I am aware of dating back to SA-2 are designed to detonate in proximity to A/C and throw shrapnel into the plane.

Anyway, as MSage points out, it would leave distinctive damage - outside scorching, inward metal bending, etc as opposed to inside scorching, outward if it was an on-board explosion like PA103.

I was thinking a pattern from shrapnel hitting the plane, too.

IIRC, some missiles even use rods instead of just fragmentation.

 

[txinvestigator]

I was on the pier pulling shore power when they pulled into port after helping with the recovery effort. I would not have believed them if not for the fact that just about the entire crew was reassigned just after that. Not really hard to keep secret, sailors follow orders too.

lol. They, the crew told you they shot down 800?

And what evidence is there that "just about the entire crew" was reassigned "just after that"?


Sailors keep secrets too? Really 400 Sailors, approximately 340 enlisted? For 17 years?

 

[Flat Lander]

lol. They, the crew told you they shot down 800?

And what evidence is there that "just about the entire crew" was reassigned "just after that"?


Sailors keep secrets too? Really 400 Sailors, approximately 340 enlisted? For 17 years?

Yes, they told us that during missile drills a missile went off course and impacted, not detonated a target.

As for evidence that they were reassigned, we were parked on the pier next to them and saw a ghost ship for weeks.

Regarding keeping secrets, when the crew scattered then they would only be lone voices telling stories and nobody would believe them.

Again, only have second hand knowledge as I was not aboard

 

[Younggun]

To commercial airliners run the same type of fuel as military?

JP8 runs everything from trucks to tanks(turbine engine) to helicopters. Pretty sure it's used in most of the fixed wing planes also.

It's not all that combustible. Pretty close to diesel. ESP this new diesel at the pumps now.

 

[Younggun]

Also, I thought aircraft had a bladder in the fuel tank.

 

[Shorts]

Here's the NatGeo production of the event:
Jumbo Jet Down | National Geographic Channel

 

[okie556]

There is no way that aircraft was shot down.

Anything is possible! Must be some reason to re-open this investigation. You have no way of knowing what really happened. No one on this forum does. In your opinion......there is no way that aircraft was shot down.

 

[F350-6]

Sailors keep secrets too? Really 400 Sailors, approximately 340 enlisted? For 17 years?

Not talking about 800 here, but this specific comment wouldn't surprise me in the least. There are plenty of secrets out there that have been kept by enlisted for more than a decade or two.

 

[Texasjack]

Jet fuel is highly flammable, and the tank was not full.

There is a HUGE difference between FLAMMABLE and VOLATILE. Jet fuel is like kerosene, not like gasoline.

 

[Flat Lander]

I agree it's not that combustible. But on impact that much fuel creates a huge fireball.

 

[M. Sage]

There is a HUGE difference between FLAMMABLE and VOLATILE. Jet fuel is like kerosene, not like gasoline.

This. I use a shop air powered vacuum bleeder to prime Volkswagen diesel injection pumps. If I smoked, I'd smoke while I did it.

That would be extremely dangerous with gasoline, even without the cigarette.

 

[Shotgun Jeremy]

Not talking about 800 here, but this specific comment wouldn't surprise me in the least. There are plenty of secrets out there that have been kept by enlisted for more than a decade or two.

I know of entire nuclear submarine bases that keep secrets. Hell, I was on one and am looking forward to the day when things are declassed due to time frame so I can tell my grandkids some cool stuff.


Also, there are a lot of second hand accounts of people hearing about it being shot down as well as a couple I have seen where guys go on forums and say they watched it and regs have changed to prevent this from happening again.

 

[oldguy]

The video was incorrect(by FBI) I know enough about airplanes to understand an aircraft with nose broke off the fuselage will fall straight down the plane will not continue to climb, second one NTSB investigator was told not to take pictures of holes in plane, odd as they always do for evidence and research. Something smells, certainly if it was shot down the airlines industry would not want Joe average to know.

 

[steve-o]

The NSA, IRS, AP, Benghazi Govt Scandals have, till now, been considered tin foil conspiracy nut job propaganda. I think this has opened the gate for many other " oh that can't be true, the govt wouldn't lie" events to be relived. The real tin foil hatters probably feel emboldened and will continue to throw shit against the wall to see what sticks. Just my 2 cents