I find in rather funny that so many people are asking $575 for their Glocks when one can buy most models new for $500-550. Bud's has the G23 gen 3 for $499 shipped $514 with credit card. Even with the $15 ffl fee I save buying new. If I can't save $50-100 or acquire some accessories I really want I'm buying new. Of course, one can't negotiate price with Bud's and may be able to on a used Glock. I just find it an odd negotiating tactic to start with an asking price that is high than new unless one has some pricey accessories or mods.