Mexican_Hippie
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Whatever you do be polite. The only thing worse than pissing off a cop is pissing off a judge.
What if?..
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In follow-up to Rum Runner, I know a lady who took her car into an auto shop to have something or other repaired. When she came to pick up the car she found a mechanic asleep in the driver's seat. Suspicious of this, she searched her car for contraband when she got home. She found a bag of cocaine under her seat.
Little unpredictables like that are the reason I advise people not to consent to searches.
Little unpredictables like that are the reason I advise people not to consent to searches.
You never arrested anyone because they incriminated themselves by voluntarily waiving their 5th or 4th?
no i arrested them because there was evidence to do so
I dont care if someone wants to consent or not. Worst case is his car doesnt get searched... if I have something "meaty" to run with I will develop PC...if I cant develop PC, I will move on in most cases.
I think this thread is making alot out of an issue that is rarely ever an issue.
Trying to show the officer (who does thousands of traffic stops a year) that you are smarter than him is a losing proposition.
The number of police doing illegal searches is miniscule.
I think this thread is making alot out of an issue that is rarely ever an issue.
Trying to show the officer (who does thousands of traffic stops a year) that you are smarter than him is a losing proposition.
The number of police doing illegal searches is miniscule.
Declining a search is not a passive aggressive move or directly aggressive move or motivation. Its a simple exercising of my rights to keep me safe. Just like the officer wants to be safe.
I understand it's easy to develop PC. Too easy if you ask me and is almost abusive but that's their authority and I'll yield to it. I just won't consent to a search if given the option.
Agreed, but it's best to be prepared and know your rights. That's all I'm trying to say.
Your perspective seems to be that you don't ask for consent because you don't need to, which I wish more cops would do . I have no problem with moving aside for PC but asking me to consent just puts me in an uncomfortable position. Can't fight a Terry search, either. I always think it's funny to see some beligerant and aggressive person on TV putting a cop ill at ease then fighting him when he tries to do a Terry because "You have no right to put your hands on me!"
Avoid a prison term and save that shit for after the detention. I'm not saying I'm just a fan of power flexing, but I do like seeing uncivilized people getting their asses beat for their rude and stupid behavior. Unfortunately from what I've seen it's usually the most reasonable Police who get this stuff the most- I haven't seen many situations where people are eager to man up to officers acting like total dicks.
Anyway, I can't think of a single productive thing I can add to this thread anymore so now I'm just ranting.
Mexican_Hippie
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Just curious, how often do police search a vehicle if they stopped someone for a traffic violation? I mean, assuming there's not pot smoke billowing out when you roll down the window.
This kind of moved into a different direction.. I obviously understand to be respectful.
And I'm a 19 year old who drives a very nice vehicle..Cops have bad days too rite? Maybe one would want to search my car just for that fact.
I just don't want to not tell the officer there is a firearm and then hear "oh what do we have here...you can't have this"
But thanks so much for all of the advice.
And I'm a 19 year old who drives a very nice vehicle..Cops have bad days too rite? Maybe one would want to search my car just for that fact.
I just don't want to not tell the officer there is a firearm and then hear "oh what do we have here...you can't have this"
But thanks so much for all of the advice.
This kind of moved into a different direction.. I obviously understand to be respectful.
And I'm a 19 year old who drives a very nice vehicle..Cops have bad days too rite? Maybe one would want to search my car just for that fact.
I just don't want to not tell the officer there is a firearm and then hear "oh what do we have here...you can't have this"
But thanks so much for all of the advice.
And I'm a 19 year old who drives a very nice vehicle..Cops have bad days too rite? Maybe one would want to search my car just for that fact.
I just don't want to not tell the officer there is a firearm and then hear "oh what do we have here...you can't have this"
But thanks so much for all of the advice.
here's the problem with your bad day theory - these bad searches find their way to an attorney eventually - a prosecutor...if an officer develops a reputation for having A LOT of bad days - they lose any credibility they had and everything else they do is suspect.....it's really tough for an officer to overcome an integrity issue
so, it's really pointless - yeah, you can find a cletus carrying a badge now and then, but that's a stereotype that exists much more on TV than in reality
so, it's really pointless - yeah, you can find a cletus carrying a badge now and then, but that's a stereotype that exists much more on TV than in reality
Huh?
Use of force is defined under the "Castle Doctrine" bill in 2007 80(R) SB 378 - Enrolled version - Bill Text It doesn't state you can carry in the car.
