What the hell? Since when is "gender" complicated

[Younggun]

In my mind Glockster is either a really hot chick or a hideous tranny. Never met him in person.

It's the second one.

 

[Mike1234567]

In my mind Glockster is either a really hot chick or a hideous tranny. Never met him in person.

It's the second one.

...been peeping in his windows again, have you?

 

[Younggun]

I wish he would keep it that private.

 

[Glockster69]

In my mind Glockster is either a really hot chick or a hideous tranny. Never met him in person.

Have you considered a smokin hot tranny?


Sleep well tonight.

 

[benenglish]

I respectfully disagree with that statement.

Agreement or disagreement is pretty dependent on your definition of "significant".

I'm not aware of any "studies" done or polls taken.

Like I said, I'm not willing to go down that rabbit hole. If you are (I'd advise against it.) just go to the Wikipedia entry for "gender" and read all the footnotes.

My stance is a significant percentage of the population doesn't give a rat's ass about this issue.

I don't think any thinking person could disagree with that.

 

[Charlie]

Agreement or disagreement is pretty dependent on your definition of "significant".

Like I said, I'm not willing to go down that rabbit hole. If you are (I'd advise against it.) just go to the Wikipedia entry for "gender" and read all the footnotes.

I don't think any thinking person could disagree with that.

Significant to me would be a number of people that could have a "significant" impact on laws, court issues, etc. I'd say 15% of the voting population (nationwide) or more.
Wikipedia footnotes, etc. are meaningless in my opinion. A footnote can be just there to keep someone from taking responsibility for what is written. And as most of us know, papers generated by students (university level and up), professors, etc., etc., can be made to convey anything as good, bad, etc. by merely using the information (citing, etc.) that meets the writer's need.

 

[Mikeinhistory]

Sorry to bursty your bubble, but sex and gender are in fact different words for real reasons and mean different things. Please refer to Webster's below... Gender by definition is a socially defined concept, and by that definition the original Facebook poster is correct. You can disagree with their view that they don't have to choose, or that they can choose differently than their sex, but you cannot disagree with their definition of the terms.

sex |seks|noun1 (chiefly with reference to people) sexual activity, including specifically sexual intercourse: he enjoyed talking about sex | she didn't want to have sex withhim.• [ in sing. ] euphemistic a person's genitals.2 either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and many other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions: adults of both sexes.
gender |ˈjendər|noun1 the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones): traditional concepts of gender | [as modifier ] : gender roles.

 

[Charlie]

I don't agree with their interpretations. Male includes being born with the correct sex organ, female includes being born with the correct sex organ .......................... my own opinions.

 

[London]

I once got into it with a chick (dude?) who was convinced, along with the rest of it's friends that gender is an "Artificial construct." This person was born female, decided she was male, and started testosterone therapy. She wholeheartedly argued that she was now a man, as good as any other.

My argument is she's an imitation of a man. She has no idea what it's like to grow up as a male (never been in a single fight with another boy, let alone dozens or hundreds? That's kind of a big thing). Not only that, but she has to pay a Doctor to give her testosterone while I make mine without the slightest bit of effort.

Of course, her and her ilk were the same people who said Obama is the greatest President the United States has ever had and the economy is amazing. Needless to say trying to educate her got old fast and she went on my ignore list. These people are out there in great numbers, folks.

 

[kyletxria1911a1]

I'm a dude. I like chicks. Just putting it out there for the record.

Well put it back in and wash yo hands

 

[Vaquero]

A kick in the crotch usually clears up any confusion on gender.

 

[jordanmills]

Most of that is a bunch of tree hugging liberal hippy crap. There are a small number of people who have characteristics of neither or both genders. But a vast majority of the people griping about it just want attention and trouble.

 

[Charlie]

I once got into it with a chick (dude?) who was convinced, along with the rest of it's friends that gender is an "Artificial construct." This person was born female, decided she was male, and started testosterone therapy. She wholeheartedly argued that she was now a man, as good as any other.

My argument is she's an imitation of a man. She has no idea what it's like to grow up as a male (never been in a single fight with another boy, let alone dozens or hundreds? That's kind of a big thing). Not only that, but she has to pay a Doctor to give her testosterone while I make mine without the slightest bit of effort.

Of course, her and her ilk were the same people who said Obama is the greatest President the United States has ever had and the economy is amazing. Needless to say trying to educate her got old fast and she went on my ignore list. These people are out there in great numbers, folks.

Exactly!

 

[Chirpy]

Sorry to bursty your bubble, but sex and gender are in fact different words for real reasons and mean different things. Please refer to Webster's below... Gender by definition is a socially defined concept, and by that definition the original Facebook poster is correct. You can disagree with their view that they don't have to choose, or that they can choose differently than their sex, but you cannot disagree with their definition of the terms.

sex |seks|noun1 (chiefly with reference to people) sexual activity, including specifically sexual intercourse: he enjoyed talking about sex | she didn't want to have sex withhim.• [ in sing. ] euphemistic a person's genitals.2 either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and many other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions: adults of both sexes.
gender |ˈjendər|noun1 the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones): traditional concepts of gender | [as modifier ] : gender roles.

Uh, that's ONE definition, a very recent one that the OED points out is of US origin, and not common outside our little PC utopia.

http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/77468?rskey=GwKKuN&result=1&isAdvanced=false#eid

The original meaning from 1390 concerns words that describe words in language that denote the sex of the person referred to.

1. Grammar.

a. In some (esp. Indo-European) languages, as Latin, French, German, English, etc.: each of the classes (typically masculine, feminine, neuter, common) of nouns and pronouns distinguished by the different inflections which they have and which they require in words syntactically associated with them; similarly applied to adjectives (and in some languages) verbs, to denote the appropriate form for accompanying a noun of such a class. Also: the fact, condition, or property of belonging to such a class; the classification of language in this way.

Your Webster's example doesn't embrace this at all, and the original meaning of gender was simply whether a word referred to a being with male or female plumbing.

 

[Charlie]

Uh, that's ONE definition, a very recent one that the OED points out is of US origin, and not common outside our little PC utopia.

gender, n. : Oxford English Dictionary

The original meaning from 1390 concerns words that describe words in language that denote the sex of the person referred to.

1. Grammar.

a. In some (esp. Indo-European) languages, as Latin, French, German, English, etc.: each of the classes (typically masculine, feminine, neuter, common) of nouns and pronouns distinguished by the different infections which they have and which they require in words syntactically associated with them; similarly applied to adjectives (and in some languages) verbs, to denote the appropriate form for accompanying a noun of such a class. Also: the fact, condition, or property of belonging to such a class; the classification of language in this way.

Your Webster's example doesn't embrace this at all, and the original meaning of gender was simply whether a word referred to a being with male or female plumbing.

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[Younggun]

A kick in the crotch usually clears up any confusion on gender.

I found out the hard way once that kicking a woman in the crotch can cause intense pain, and they are likely to reciprocate.

 

[jrbfishn]

Tossed a very small hard fruit to my cousin one time. She missed it, got her in the crotch. Saw the same reaction by a guy that got kicked in the crotch by a mule. Felt sorry for her,,,,, but I laughed anyway


Sent by a idjit coffeeholic

 

[Mikeinhistory]

Uh, that's ONE definition, a very recent one that the OED points out is of US origin, and not common outside our little PC utopia.

gender, n. : Oxford English Dictionary

The original meaning from 1390 concerns words that describe words in language that denote the sex of the person referred to.

1. Grammar.

a. In some (esp. Indo-European) languages, as Latin, French, German, English, etc.: each of the classes (typically masculine, feminine, neuter, common) of nouns and pronouns distinguished by the different inflections which they have and which they require in words syntactically associated with them; similarly applied to adjectives (and in some languages) verbs, to denote the appropriate form for accompanying a noun of such a class. Also: the fact, condition, or property of belonging to such a class; the classification of language in this way.

Your Webster's example doesn't embrace this at all, and the original meaning of gender was simply whether a word referred to a being with male or female plumbing.

I think you misunderstand your own response. I do not call a backpack "la mochila" because it has a vagina. Or a tree "el arbol" because it has a penis. Linguistically gender has nothing to do with "plumbing", or if you are going to use terminology, sex. It is, culturally ascribed.

 

[breakingcontact]

Something something artificial construct...

It's just more socialist crap trying to mess up society so they can rebuild it in their socially engineered image.

It's all in the playbook folks.

 

[matefrio]

Another petty argument to distract us from real issues.