Who knew the ATF was coming for your ARM BRACE

[smittyb]

Never heard of her. So you really think she has a snowball's chance in hell of winning in November? She became the "official" Libertarian candidate in May of this year. Is she Pro-2A?

I'm sorry, but I rally don't see her having a big chance of winning. Name recognition and money are big factors in winning elections. I'm seeing she has either.

Not with proud 2A supporters like yourself.
I really wish people would have the courage to vote third party. It’s not a “wasted vote”. Those bought and paid for assholes in DC aren’t afraid of a damn thing, especially not you and me.
Even a 15% third party return would turn the paradigm on It’s head and make those pricks seriously reconsider business as usual.

 

[Bobk]

SO what you advocate to wait till they come for what you want to own. If that happens by the time they get to bolt action hunting rifles there will be no one left to help you fight for what YOU want. and no I do not know what you want and was just using a bolt action as a filler.

No what I am saying is I do not support taking up arms against the government.

Is that what you are proposing to do over an arm brace?

The better action would be to vote, contact your elected representatives, work with legal organizations like the NRA, Texas State Rifle Association etc.

I have to agree with Axe55 that voting third party is not going to do a thing other than to take votes away from Trump.

 

[smittyb]

She became the "official" Libertarian candidate in May of this year. Is she Pro-2A?

She wants to abolish the ATF.

 

[Axxe55]

Not with proud 2A supporters like yourself.
I really wish people would have the courage to vote third party. It’s not a “wasted vote”. Those bought and paid for assholes in DC aren’t afraid of a damn thing, especially not you and me.
Even a 15% third party return would turn the paradigm on It’s head and make those pricks seriously reconsider business as usual.

If she had started a year ago, or even better two years ago, of campaigning for president, doing grassroot rallies, building a name for herself, letting people get to know her, her opinions on policies, and building momentum, I might tend to agree that she MIGHT have a small chance of getting enough support and votes to MAYBE win the election.

At this late in the game, just five months until the elections, no sir, I'm not voting for a third party candidate to increase the odds of Biden, or his puppetmasters to possibly win over Trump. At this time, I do consider it to be a wasted vote.

I have never said that Trump was perfect, and I think he could do some things a bit differently, but he has delivered, or tried to deliver on everything he said he would and campaigned on. He has been fought every day since he won the election. He's been lied about, attempted impeachment, and other shams against him and has come through much stronger. How would this Jo Jorgensen stand up to such treatment? Do you think she would fare any better against the other established politicians that Trump has been fighting with? Do you think they would be more "accepting" of her over Trump?

 

[Axxe55]

She wants to abolish the ATF.

That doesn't necessarily make her Pro-2A IMO. I detest the KKK, and other white supremacist groups, and wish they were eliminated, or disbanded. Does that make me a supporter for the BLM now?

 

[smittyb]

Fun fact, there has been more gun control put into effect under Trump than Obama.
“We’re going to take the firearms first, then go to court”
Yeah, **** that guy.

 

[rotor]

3rd party? Voted for Ross Perot and what did that get us? Clinton.

 

[smittyb]

3rd party? Voted for Ross Perot and what did that get us? Clinton.

Oh no!!
I voted for McCain, and what did that get us?
So if your candidate doesn’t win, you’ll never vote again?
If it first you don’t succeed, give up?

 

[SQLGeek]

Sorry to interrupt this derailment but this is an interesting read.

SB Tactical CEO thinks this announcement from Gaetz is a good thing because the ATF is being put on notice.

He is not aware of any new pending enforcement actions.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/r...tfs-apparent-plans-to-restrict-pistol-braces/

 

[Bozz10mm]

Defund the ATF!

 

[Axxe55]

Oh no!!
I voted for McCain, and what did that get us?
So if your candidate doesn’t win, you’ll never vote again?
If it first you don’t succeed, give up?

I voted for Perot as well. Not saying I wouldn't vote a third party candidate, but I'm choosing my vote very carefully. IF there is a viable alternative in a third party, then I would support, and vote a third party candidate. I'm not seeing that with Jo Jorgensen at this time. I'd like to know more about her first. I supported Ted Cruz before Trump was the Republican candidate. I'd like to see him run in 2024.

 

[Axxe55]

Defund the ATF!

It is one federal agency that I do support in being defunded, and dismantled. Many of their duties could be easily transferred to other federal agencies.

 

[TX OMFS]

In the autonomous zone of TX OMFS the NFA has been outlawed. If it works in Seattle why can't I do it too?

 

[oldag]

Not with proud 2A supporters like yourself.
I really wish people would have the courage to vote third party. It’s not a “wasted vote”. Those bought and paid for assholes in DC aren’t afraid of a damn thing, especially not you and me.
Even a 15% third party return would turn the paradigm on It’s head and make those pricks seriously reconsider business as usual.

When it takes a vote from the lesser of two evils and helps puts the Dem (worse of two evils) in office... Well, draw your own conclusion on how much good it did.

 

[toddnjoyce]

In the autonomous zone of TX OMFS the NFA has been outlawed. If it works in Seattle why can't I do it too?

My autonomous zone is the same way.

 

[Maverick44]

She wants to abolish the ATF.

I have to agree with Axxe on this one. I am a strong supporter of voting 3rd party, and frankly, I feel that the two party system will eventually kill this nation, but it's too late in the game to support an unknown. I have no idea who she is or what she stands for. Why would I vote for her?

She should have made a name for herself and made sure everyone knew who she was and what she stood for two years ago. You are going to need a lot of momentum and support to beat the two party system. Right now, she has the momentum of a gently tossed pebble.

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[Coop45]

Oh crap, they will be after my walker next. It's almost an antique too, fifteen years old and low mileage too.

 

[BuzzinSATX]

Therein lies the problem. Why is it everyone believes there are only 2 choices? It’s Like a self fulfilling Prophecy. Of course it won’t get better if the people don’t have the courage to vote third party.
Jo Jorgensen wants to abolish the ATF. R’s AND D’s just want to abolish your liberties.

There are on ly two valid choices...unfortunately, this is a sad but true fact.

To think otherwise would be to repeat the election of 1992, where everyone thought Ross Perot had a snowball's chance...and got Clinton elected.

Don't think I like this fact...but I accept it as truth.

 

[gasgas]

Perot split the vote because he was mad a Bush1
And clinton won and we have been paying ever since
Vote Trump all the way or the USA will end
third party is always arranged by demorats to split vote

 

[locke_n_load]

No what I am saying is I do not support taking up arms against the government.

Is that what you are proposing to do over an arm brace?

The better action would be to vote, contact your elected representatives, work with legal organizations like the NRA, Texas State Rifle Association etc.

I have to agree with Axe55 that voting third party is not going to do a thing other than to take votes away from Trump.

Ha! Work with the NRA. A lot of good that did on bump stocks - with their official stance being that the government should strongly consider reclassifying them as machine guns.