The second part of my question was, "What if I didn't have a CHL?"
Are you just rephrasing or are you still asking the same question? Sig_Fiend has already answered it, yes, you'd be in violation without a CHL.
The second part of my question was, "What if I didn't have a CHL?"
While it wasn't urgent (I wasn't having engine trouble) I stopped because it was almost closing time at Jiffy Lube, and we live outside of town. I couldn't have made it home and back in time...I could have come back the next day, granted, but since I do have a CHL I felt like I could take the gun inside the waiting area since it was concealed by the case and by the opaque bag.
I do have a small gun safe in my car, chained underneath one of the captain's chairs in the second row of seats. (My Expedition doesn't have a trunk.) It is a small safe, though, and won't accommodate a 5" 1911. My 4" M&P 45c or 3" M&P Shield fit in it, and they are my usual carry.
I didn't think I would be in violation, or I wouldn't have risked it. The first part of my question was to confirm that. The second part of my question was, "What if I didn't have a CHL?"
Are you just rephrasing or are you still asking the same question? Sig_Fiend has already answered it, yes, you'd be in violation without a CHL.
I hope my post didn't come off as those recommendations being aimed at you? That wasn't my intention. I was mostly speaking theoretically about a person without a CHL to answer that question of yours.
I know one person here that I believe has rocked an under folder AK with an extra mag or two inside a tennis racket case.