We almost made a big mistake yesterday at Pasadena and bought a Jimenez because of the price. Boy would that have been a mistake. Thats why I was thinking getting a used better quality. YoungGun I appreciate all your help to get me into the right pistol. When I was into guns last in the 80's we all had 357'S, 44 mags and 45 auto. All of these new guns are so much different. I wish I wouldnt of let so many years pass and kept up with the new technology. Does everyone like the 9's because of the cheap ammo?