Atf rule banning private sales requires FFL rumored for fall.

[Sasquatch]

Another rule that will either be rammed through and immediately fought by GOA FPC SAF and NAGR or it will be drastically changed THEN rammed thru and immediately challenged by GOA FPC SAF and NAGR. This admin doesn't listen to the people, nor the courts. Courts need to strike down the no private sales across state lines thing, which would in turn also mean no laws against private sales within state borders.

 

[motorcarman]

WILL NOT COMPLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Bozz10mm]

I've never sold a firearm in my life, but this rule just ...well, it pisses me off.

 

[Whistler]

If this makes me an outlaw, so be it.

 

[AR1911]

It’s easy. If you can’t prove with a receipt or Bill of sale, how much you paid for it, they will just assume it is all profit.

This exactly what TXDOT does when you register that used car you got a great deal on. They charge sales tax on what they think you SHOULD have paid for the car.

 

[Lonesome Dove]

This exactly what TXDOT does when you register that used car you got a great deal on. They charge sales tax on what they think you SHOULD have paid for the car.

I've not had that happen.

 

[Otto_Mation]

This exactly what TXDOT does when you register that used car you got a great deal on. They charge sales tax on what they think you SHOULD have paid for the car.

They did it to me. I paid the residual at the end of a lease on a truck. They told me the truck was worth more than I paid for it and changed me tax on what they deemed it was worth.

 

[AR1911]

I've not had that happen.

So, you see a car you have been wanting, listed on CL at a hot smokin' deal. You rush over with cash in hand and drive that baby home, snickering all the way at buying your new ride at 2/3 of market price. Then you go to register it in your name, tell the clerk you paid $X for it. Clerk looks up the SPV (standard Presumptive Value) and says you owe sales tax on an amount 50% higher than you paid. That has been the law for about 10 years now.

Standard Presumptive Values | TxDMV.gov

www.txdmv.gov

 

[kbaxter60]

Also: https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/bi...utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=BonginoReport

 

[Lonesome Dove]

So, you see a car you have been wanting, listed on CL at a hot smokin' deal. You rush over with cash in hand and drive that baby home, snickering all the way at buying your new ride at 2/3 of market price. Then you go to register it in your name, tell the clerk you paid $X for it. Clerk looks up the SPV (standard Presumptive Value) and says you owe sales tax on an amount 50% higher than you paid. That has been the law for about 10 years now.

Standard Presumptive Values | TxDMV.gov

www.txdmv.gov

I drive a 65 mustang told them I paid $5000 and that's the tax I paid. Exactly 9 3/4 years ago. Must be a per county deal.

 

[Sam Colt]

This is why it pays to be a sovereign citizen. Only suckers pay retail.

 

[Buttermut]

Biden and the ATF can eat a bag of dicks.


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Exactly…

 

[Lead Belly]

So, you see a car you have been wanting, listed on CL at a hot smokin' deal. You rush over with cash in hand and drive that baby home, snickering all the way at buying your new ride at 2/3 of market price. Then you go to register it in your name, tell the clerk you paid $X for it. Clerk looks up the SPV (standard Presumptive Value) and says you owe sales tax on an amount 50% higher than you paid. That has been the law for about 10 years now.

Standard Presumptive Values | TxDMV.gov

www.txdmv.gov

I bought a Texas DPS suv from auction that needed engine work; non-runner. I got it for a good price and the tax lady tried that presumptive value bit. I had her get supervisor and explained that the value of the vehicle that Texas sold it to me is the actual value Texas presumes it to be. ie: Texas DPS isn't fraudulently marking-down sales receipts just so I can skirt paying State taxes.

If the lady in the window tells you something you don't agree with; get a new lady. (No, that tactic doesn't also apply in bed.)

 

[Sasquatch]

Had an ATF agent call me and my wife today about a Glock she sold a few months ago. It was recovered in conjunction with a crime, I guess.

ATF guy wanted all the details on the guy who bought it - and it was scary but unsurprising how fast he pulled info up. I misremembered a detail about the guy's car - I was remembering an SUV but running the phone number I found for the guy, it was a Cadillac CTS.

ATF guy was all pushy about "make sure if you sell a gun, get a BOS, get their driver license, and all the identifying info in case something like this happenes again" - despite there not being any law about it. He was going on about how Houston is a hotbed for criminal activity and a major supplier of illegal arms that get shipped internationally - dunno if that was the case with my wife's Glock, but who knows.

I don't plan on requiring a BOS any time soon, but I am not using Texas Gun Trader anymore, period. People there just are too sketchy, I guess.

 

[Lead Belly]

..... I am not using Texas Gun Trader anymore, period. People there just are too sketchy, I guess.

Geez, Squatch. Sorry to hear about that. That's some stress nobody needs.

I'm wanting to lean to LTC only as it weeds out a lot of bs, but I also get not bothering to get one... in some folks situations.

Criminals take the fun outta everything. We should put them all somewhere...

 

[Eli]

Had an ATF agent call me and my wife today about a Glock she sold a few months ago. It was recovered in conjunction with a crime, I guess.

ATF guy wanted all the details on the guy who bought it - and it was scary but unsurprising how fast he pulled info up. I misremembered a detail about the guy's car - I was remembering an SUV but running the phone number I found for the guy, it was a Cadillac CTS.

ATF guy was all pushy about "make sure if you sell a gun, get a BOS, get their driver license, and all the identifying info in case something like this happenes again" - despite there not being any law about it. He was going on about how Houston is a hotbed for criminal activity and a major supplier of illegal arms that get shipped internationally - dunno if that was the case with my wife's Glock, but who knows.

I don't plan on requiring a BOS any time soon, but I am not using Texas Gun Trader anymore, period. People there just are too sketchy, I guess.

Gun may have been stolen. Don't worry about it!

Eli

 

[DoubleDuty]

If I ever sell a firearm amnesia is going to take place

 

[seeker_two]

Had an ATF agent call me and my wife today about a Glock she sold a few months ago. It was recovered in conjunction with a crime, I guess.

I'm not trusting a voice on the phone. If they want details, we can meet at a neutral location so I can see their bona fides....

 

[studenygreg]

I don't understand how banning private sales will work. It's private. If you have firearms that are not linked to you how do they stop you from selling it privately?

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[DoubleDuty]

I don't understand how banning private sales will work. It's private. If you have firearms that are not linked to you how do they stop you from selling it privately?

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The reason those scum want universal background checks so they know who has guns and can then work on more of their unconstitutional gun grab schemes.