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  • gdr_11

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    After years of SHTF hypothesis, the issues now appear much more real to me since we are getting a small taste of panic driven chaos with economic chaos just around the corner. Recently, I have had to rethink my home defense strategies.

    For me, the issue is that now I am much older and my original weapon choices have changed. Instead of a high caliber semi auto rifle and a couple of 1911s, both with multiple loaded magazines, I have switched to a high capacity 9mm with 5 mags that will give me 100 rounds at the ready plus my Mossberg 500 in .410 with 6 rifled slugs.

    I am a bit concerned by the lack of stopping power of the .410 but the light weight and recoil are a plus for me now that I am in my 70's. There would really be no opportunity for long distance defense unless they came from my back fence 100 yards away and then my AR in 6.5 Creedmoor and the 30 round mags would suffice.

    Main problem is that it is just me a, 71 year old guy who can, at best, scare them off to find easier pickings or, at worst, could take out a few before they overwhelm me. My home is not defensible without at least one other defender but its just me.

    I have talked to my immediate neighbors but only one, an ex LEO, has any concept of firearms or home defense. So, after years of "what if" it now seems much more real and my options are not looking good. I am currently trying to organize at least some of the larger neighborhood to agree to cooperate in a strategy to block our dead end lane which has 36 properties along it. Figure we could man the road block and only let residents in or out while also providing a first line of defense. At this point, I would hate to pin my hopes on the folks I have met who live up and down the lane. Another problem is that most of our properties back up to open or wooded space behind our 2-10 acre plots so we would be vulnerable to back door intrusions. As they say in El Paso, no bueno!

    Bottom line is that now is a good time to update planning and preparation because this whole thing has been a wake up call for me.
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    benenglish

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    I am currently trying to organize at least some of the larger neighborhood to agree to cooperate in a strategy to block our dead end lane which has 36 properties along it.
    The only time such a thing was needed in my neighborhood, it seemed to materialize out of thin air. It was after a hurricane. Power was out for over a week and the road into the subdivision was blocked by fallen trees for, iirc, 4 days.

    The head of the HOA put a table at the entrance to the subdivision. Everyone saw it and dozens of people just walked up and volunteered. Circulating security patrols came together spontaneously. The kids in the neighborhood knocked on doors to find out if anyone was sufficiently elderly or sick as to need help. They reported their findings at the front of the subdivision and the patrols then canvassed for people with spare supplies to help the identified sick and elderly.

    When the trees were removed from the sole road into the subdivision and the Constables could drive by, they questioned the obviously well-armed folks at the check-in table. After a short conversation, they thanked our volunteers for giving them one less neighborhood to worry about.

    Four other cars full of folks who didn't belong here drove by over the next couple of days. They saw the check-in table, saw all the guns, and quietly u-turned.

    I don't know everyone in my subdivision. In fact, I only know a few. But I feel pretty sure that in a SHTF situation, we'd help each other.
     

    Wiliamr

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    With shelves at grocery stores being cleaned out there are a group of people who will process this fact into personal desperation. That desperation will somewhere in this country morph into - he has it, I have to have it to survive.....
     

    oldag

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    OP, I suspect you are right. A little resistance will more than likely send the varmints looking for easier prey.
     

    pronstar

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    I don’t think we’re anywhere near societal collapse.

    But that’s not to say it can’t happen.

    Some good insights here re:security.

    You’re gonna need at least 18 people on rotating shifts to maintain a secure perimeter, according to John Lovell.





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    oldag

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    I don’t think we’re anywhere near societal collapse.

    But that’s not to say it can’t happen.

    Some good insights here re:security.

    You’re gonna need at least 18 people on rotating shifts to maintain a secure perimeter, according to John Lovell.





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    rotor

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    Things would have to get much much worse before such a thought would become reality. On the other hand, the Boy Scout motto applies, Be Prepared. Now is not the time to try to find ammo. From past experience you should already have plenty. I always liked the Boy Scouts.
     

    yellowg

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    If food and essential goods manufacturing all of sudden stopped or slowed dramatically, I’d be more inclined to believe we would be in SHTF scenario sooner. Since all basic services and food/water is still being produced, I think this will all blow over at some point. That being said, I still have a ton of ammo if I actually need to use it.
     

    45tex

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    I don’t think we’re anywhere near societal collapse.
    Not really worried about collapse, rather it looks to be a Socialist takeover under the guise of taking care of us sheep.
    We already have had a coup attempt. Demorats are against everything moral. And immoral if Trump is for it. And they are winning.
    Harris County/Houston is an ultra Socialist shitehole thanks to the last election. When the Mexicans voted mostly for Mexican Demorats. Sounds racist but its not. These folks just got woke. They could have done this years ago.
    No shite no fan just rights trampled and lost to Socialist doctrine.
     
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