Gun Value Appreciation Last 10-15 Years

[Txhillbilly]

Gun's only appreciate if you can find someone dumb enough to pay you more than they are actually worth/cost.

 

[xkon]

I don't know where this tie to the stock market and investments came up, I was only inquiring about the value of guns and how much they appreciate/depreciate over the years...

Your first post says that some people say guns aren't an investment, you disagree with that and some firearms should be collected to increase in value (aka an investment).

I think someone suggesting a better alternative for investment such as putting money in a 401k is wise advice.

 

[PinnedandRecessed]

Gun's only appreciate if you can find someone dumb enough to pay you more than they are actually worth/cost.

Kinda like your house? Or is that different? When you want to sell make sure not to take the market into consideration and sell when someone offers 50% of what you paid for it.

I'm sure @baboon will sell you a fa MP5 for what he paid for it 30-40 years ago.

 

[majormadmax]

Your first post says that some people say guns aren't an investment, you disagree with that and some firearms should be collected to increase in value (aka an investment).

I think someone suggesting a better alternative for investment such as putting money in a 401k is wise advice.

And where did I advocate only investing in firearms?!? I am sure most realize it's not enough to eventually retire on.

My point, which is pretty clear, is that certain firearms do increase in value and if you understand that, I honestly don't have time to explain the obvious.

Lastly, why are you talking in the third person ("some people")?

Thanks for contributing zero to this discussion!

 

[IXLR8]

Now, if 15 years ago you had the forethought to purchase a handful of class 3 registered sears…. I am sure that their price appreciation beat the stock market.

 

[xkon]

And where did I advocate only investing in firearms?!? I am sure most realize it's not enough to eventually retire on.

My point, which is pretty clear, is that certain firearms do increase in value and if you understand that, I honestly don't have time to explain the obvious.

Lastly, why are you talking in the third person ("some people")?

Thanks for contributing zero to this discussion!

Transferables or spend investment money in other commodities. My contribution to your discussion.

 

[majormadmax]

Transferables or spend investment money in other commodities. My contribution to your discussion.

Bless you heart!

 

[Paul Saver]

My firearms will always be worthy to me. I am set. It's all about feeding them now.

 

[Txhillbilly]

Kinda like your house? Or is that different? When you want to sell make sure not to take the market into consideration and sell when someone offers 50% of what you paid for it.

I'm sure @baboon will sell you a fa MP5 for what he paid for it 30-40 years ago.

NFA items are a completely different deal, and have been since 1986.
I've never cared about mil-surp firearm's, so in my 50+ years of owning and shooting, there has only been a couple that I actually bought.

Knowing what I could've paid for many of today's crazy priced firearm's years ago, makes me not want them even more.

 

[DaBull]

If you bought a firearm in 1995 for $100, with inflation, you would have to sell it for $204 in 2024 just to break even in terms of purchasing power. So if you cannot sell your 1995 firearm for double what you paid, you are not coming out ahead.

$100 in 1984 is worth $304 today...so its triple what you paid for mid 80s purchases to break even.

 

[Moonpie]

Kinda difficult to figure the gun market out sometimes.
Look at .40SW caliber guns. 15-20yrs ago they were the hotness. Nowadays you can't give one away.
Opposite end: Old milsurps. pre-1950 stuff has gone nutzo. Ammo is almost unpossible to find any more. 100+yr old guns all worn out yet prices on them are up to batshit retarded levels.
Lately I've noticed a crap ton of 22magnum guns coming into the market. Everyone I've talked to are saying ammo costs are driving them out of sock drawers and musty closets. Prices on them are a bit much as yet so we will see.

 

[wbblazer90]

It depends, some hold value and go up really well. Depending on which HK you bought and when for example. I got my mark 23 for $1400 8 years ago or so and now they are $2k+. But whenever they discontinue a model, watch out. Hk 91, 93, PM13 etc.. USPs were crazy expensive until HK started making them in higher numbers again. We’ll see how long that lasts.

Revolvers, especially smiths and rugers have seen a renaissance recently. 686s and 629s even with the IL now have jumped $300+ in the last few years. Colt is colt. Some will argue the 70s and 80s era pythons will always hold value and go up. But as a Colt fan, I’m just as happy to spend $2k less to get a current production one. Once the blued ones drop below $1400 I think I’m in.

 

[TheDan]

If you bought a firearm in 1995 for $100, with inflation, you would have to sell it for $204 in 2024 just to break even in terms of purchasing power. So if you cannot sell your 1995 firearm for double what you paid, you are not coming out ahead.

In 1995 91/30s were what, like $60? Now they are 5 times that.

I'm rich!

 

[deemus]

Lately I've noticed a crap ton of 22magnum guns coming into the market. Everyone I've talked to are saying ammo costs are driving them out of sock drawers and musty closets. Prices on them are a bit much as yet so we will see.

Every time my wife sent me to Walmart I went to the gun counter and bought a little milk carton of 22mag. Those packs were about $16 for 125 rounds. I have a couple ammo cans full of them now, but they aren't $16 any more. I think I have enough to fuel my PMR30 till I die.

BTW, my wife just HAD to have that PMR30 after that night she shot that and your Colt 9mm 1911 in Tomball? She liked the fireball.

 

[Fishkiller]

When one takes inflation into account, rarely does an investment make money. In 1980 my salary was $30,000. Today I would need to make $90,000 to squeak by as I did in the ‘ 80s

So I do not look at making money from things I enjoy. I just enjoy them

 

[alterspaces]

When I move back to Cali, all the off-roster guns I have will appreciate 30-50% in value. FYI, off-roster does not mean illegal, it just means that dealers can't sell it.

 

[Fishkiller]

When I move back to Cali, all the off-roster guns I have will appreciate 30-50% in value. FYI, off-roster does not mean illegal, it just means that dealers can't sell it.

Actually neither can you, legally. Since all sales public and private are supposed to go thru a dealer

 

[Tnhawk]

When I move back to Cali, all the off-roster guns I have will appreciate 30-50% in value. FYI, off-roster does not mean illegal, it just means that dealers can't sell it.

The sale or transfer of a firearm is illegal unless it is completed through a licensed CA firearm dealer. No handgun may be sold by a firearm dealer to the public unless it is of a make and model listed on the DOJ official Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale in CA.
I guess that covers the BOS question.

 

[alterspaces]

Actually neither can you, legally. Since all sales public and private are supposed to go thru a dealer

The sale or transfer of a firearm is illegal unless it is completed through a licensed CA firearm dealer. No handgun may be sold by a firearm dealer to the public unless it is of a make and model listed on the DOJ official Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale in CA.
I guess that covers the BOS question.

Well it seems both of you guys got it wrong. It will go through a dealer, and I'm allowed to sell off-roster guns that way. Only the dealer can't sell them. It literally says so in statute you cited. Not sure why you guys are so convinced I'm going to do something wrong, I'm literally from CA and have done this several times. off-roster guns are all the rage on the CA version of TGT.

 

[Southpaw]

I'm literally from CA and have done this several times.

How many times have you moved from CA to TX and vice versa?