Israel and Hamas Conflict; The Politics and More

[Paul Saver]

Gibberish.

 

[popper]

Report: Blinken, Biden Considering Unilateral Recognition of Palestinian State

Secretary of State Antony Blinken has reportedly asked the State Department to consider unilateral recognition of a Palestinian state.

www.breitbart.com

So Biden is mandating Israel recognize Palestine as a country? Demanding they have their own Gov. See how well that works. Thought Biden said he was going to 'react' to the killing of US military. Opps, guess not!

 

[General Zod]

Report: Blinken, Biden Considering Unilateral Recognition of Palestinian State

Secretary of State Antony Blinken has reportedly asked the State Department to consider unilateral recognition of a Palestinian state.

www.breitbart.com

So Biden is mandating Israel recognize Palestine as a country? Demanding they have their own Gov. See how well that works. Thought Biden said he was going to 'react' to the killing of US military. Opps, guess not!

They've already failed at having a 'state' once before - that's how Hamas wound up running the place, keeping the populace poor and desperate, and recruiting their rapists and murderers from the rest of the disposable human shields that elected them. Fucking idiocy.

 

[V-Tach]

I've followed Ward Carroll for quite awhile......if you want to know what weapon systems our military is is engaging with in the ME, he's the man.....

 

[Paul Saver]

 

[Paul Saver]

 

[Jakashh]

Why did Netanyahu want to strengthen Hamas?

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www.haaretz.com

This is solidly documented. Between 2012 and 2018, Netanyahu gave Qatar approval to transfer a cumulative sum of about a billion dollars to Gaza, at least half of which reached Hamas, including its military wing. According to the Jerusalem Post, in a private meeting with members of his Likud party on March 11, 2019, Netanyahu explained the reckless step as follows: The money transfer is part of the strategy to divide the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank. Anyone who opposes the establishment of a Palestinian state needs to support the transfer of the money from Qatar to Hamas. In that way, we will foil the establishment of a Palestinian state (as reported in former cabinet member Haim Ramon’s Hebrew-language book “Neged Haruach”, p. 417).

In an interview with the Ynet news website on May 5, 2019, Netanyahu associate Gershon Hacohen, a major general in reserves, said, “We need to tell the truth. Netanyahu’s strategy is to prevent the option of two states, so he is turning Hamas into his closest partner. Openly Hamas is an enemy. Covertly, it’s an ally.”

A brief history of the Netanyahu-Hamas alliance | Opinion

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www.haaretz.com

The MO of Netanyahu’s policy since his return to the Prime Minister’s Office in 2009 has and continues to be, on the one hand, bolstering the rule of Hamas in the Gaza Strip, and, on the other, weakening the Palestinian Authority.

His return to power was accompanied by a complete turnaround from the policy of his predecessor, Ehud Olmert, who sought to end the conflict through a peace treaty with the most moderate Palestinian leader – PA President Mahmoud Abbas.

For the last 14 years, while implementing a divide-and-conquer policy vis-a-vis the West Bank and Gaza, “Abu Yair” (“Yair’s father,” in Arabic, as Netanyahu called himself while campaigning in the Arab community before one recent election) has resisted any attempt, military or diplomatic, that might bring an end to the Hamas regime.

For over a decade, Netanyahu has lent a hand, in various ways, to the growing military and political power of Hamas. Netanyahu is the one who turned Hamas from a terror organization with few resources into a semi-state body.

Releasing Palestinian prisoners, allowing cash transfers, as the Qatari envoy comes and goes to Gaza as he pleases, agreeing to the import of a broad array of goods, construction materials in particular, with the knowledge that much of the material will be designated for terrorism and not for building civilian infrastructure, increasing the number of work permits in Israel for Palestinian workers from Gaza, and more. All these developments created symbiosis between the flowering of fundamentalist terrorism and preservation of Netanyahu’s rule.

Take note: It would be a mistake to assume that Netanyahu thought about the well-being of the poor and oppressed Gazans – who are also victims of Hamas – when allowing the transfer of funds (some of which, as noted, didn’t go to building infrastructure but rather military armament). His goal was to hurt Abbas and prevent division of the Land of Israel into two states.

It’s important to remember that without those funds from Qatar (and Iran), Hamas would not have had the money to maintain its reign of terror, and its regime would have been dependent on restraint.

Netanyahu’s plan = prop up Hamas from a terror organization to semi-statehood government status in order to divide and conquer Gaza from the West Bank, and then blame Palestinians for supporting the group that Netanyahu himself helped fund and grow. Then bomb the shit out of the civilians to further displace them towards Egypt after his pet project does exactly what you’d expect a terror organization to do.

Kind of ironic to support the bombing of 26,000 civilians for “electing hamas” but celebrating the government that negligently supported and strengthened their existence for so many years just to keep the two halves from joining together and supporting one group to prevent any chance of a two state solution.

 

[cycleguy2300]

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[Iowashooter]

This is a good link for how the ground war is going…

The IDF (Israel Defence Forces) official website in English

https://www.idf.il/en/mini-sites/hamas-israel-war-24/

this is also good coverage of what is going on (also in English)… including the politics thereof

The Jerusalem Post - All News from Israel, the Middle East and the Jewish World

The Jerusalem Post is Israel's most-read English news website and best-selling English newspaper bringing breaking news, world news & middle east news.

www.jpost.com

 

[BigRed]

How much should American taxpayers be on the hook for this nonsense?

How much should you be forced to render for the attacker?

How much should you be forced to render to the defender?

 

[innominate]

Civis American sum. The government should protect it's citizens.

 

[glenbo]

A short report of what hamas did to Israel:

https://www.gov.il/BlobFolder/news/arcci-submits-first-report-to-un-21-feb-2024/en/English_Swords_of_Iron_DOCUMENTS_ARCCI%20report%20-%20Hamas%20sexual%20crimes%20on%20october%207.pdf

 

[BigRed]

Civis American sum. The government should protect it's citizens.

Government is the spawn of Hell. Let it return.

 

[leVieux]

How much should American taxpayers be on the hook for this nonsense?

How much should you be forced to render for the attacker?

How much should you be forced to render to the defender?

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”Should” ?

We are BROKE & suffer unsustainable DEBT.

Schumer & the democrats just can’t stop throwng our grandkids’ futures away on stupid “empire”. And, laundering their loot back into traitors’ pockets.

While Gates & the ChiComms gobble our farmlands. . .

Oh, wait; they’ll call me mean-spirited !

leVieux

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[leVieux]

Here is a video supposedly showing a hamas rocket attack on a car.
It is very suspect
Nonetheless it's being circulated around as genuine

My son works as an engineer at a big defense contractor
He works in a wing with alot of engineers and weapons experts

Today at work they viewed it and many of them feel the video is AI generated and not real.
They could not determine that a projectile left the rocket and the back blast is not at the back of the tube..it's high and further back..very suspected

These "war " videos are meant to push a narrative and I'm starting to distrust many of them

AI will get so good that maybe one day we won't be able to actually know the truth
Scary future

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Of course !

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[Johnny Diamond]

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”Should” ?

We are BROKE & suffer unsustainable DEBT.

Schumer & the democrats just can’t stop throwng our grandkids’ futures away on stupid “empire”. And, laundering their loot back into traitors’ pockets.

While Gates & the ChiComms gobble our farmlands. . .

Oh, wait; they’ll call me mean-spirited !

leVieux

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No.... unacceptable, unauthorized, anti-state, dangerous thought and speech.

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[Paul Saver]

 

[leVieux]

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So, I ask again: WHY were the once heavily-armed Israeli civilian populace disarmed, and by whom? Won’t our Jewish Friends ever learn the lessons of the Warsaw Ghetto, or of this terrible recent attack ?

Had those hang-glider terrorist rapists descended on a 1980’s Israeli festival, they’d have been targets for thousands of UZI’s & Tavor’s.

leVieux

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[DustyDuds]

There is "NOT nice" idea mentioned by Gary North (a Historian) in this longer but thought provoking article that I found years ago on the Libertarian site: Lew Rockwell.com. I will include the link as it is better and long read there:

Nuclear Agates - LewRockwell

With one exception, the hydrogen bomb is for show. Possessing a nuclear bomb is the way to enter an exclusive club. It indicates that a central government possesses power — not merely the power to kill enemy civilians but power over its own citizens. It has both the power to tax and the power to...

www.lewrockwell.com

That article is a good read! Thanks for posting.

 

[majormadmax]

Air Force member from San Antonio has died after setting himself on fire outside the Israeli embassy in DC (ksat.com)

He was 25.