New language on personal sales of firearms, “Bipartisan Safer Communities Act”

[cporfe]

With signage of the so-called “Bipartisan Safer Communities Act”, 18 United States Code, Section 921, paragraph (21)(C) deletes the term "with the principal objective of livelihood and profit” and replaces it with “to predominantly earn a profit”. It also adds a new paragraph 22 which list only 2 reasons for private sales of firearms.

There are other issues that may or may not be troublesome to 2nd Amendment lovers. My personal issue is that a federal bureaucrat, most likely from BATFE or an appointee of an elected anti-gunner will be determining what your private sale is actually for. That the BATFE is asking for so many extra agents in their budget and given the weaponization of federal agencies against the individual or freedom loving group, how soon before classified forum posts from any forum become the new "rogue gun dealers" of the Brandons of this world?

My two cents.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Ain’t nobody going to know a goddamn thing about my private party purchases.

 

[Vaquero]

Insert Schultz meme here.

 

[2ManyGuns]

**** .gov

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Ain’t nobody going to know a goddamn thing about my private party purchases.

....or sales.

 

[toddnjoyce]

....or sales.

I’ve sold exactly one firearm this century and don’t plan on selling any more, but yes, transactions would have been just as useful a word to cover both sides of the equation.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

I’ve sold exactly one firearm this century and don’t plan on selling any more, but yes, transactions would have been just as useful a word to cover both sides of the equation.

That's 1 more than me...

 

[bluesboyk3]

Just like cars, guns lose their value once shot, so it's impossible to make profit selling them used. At least that's my argument.

 

[Sam7sf]

It’s just more thought farts by stupid people.

 

[DougC]

With signage of the so-called “Bipartisan Safer Communities Act”, 18 United States Code, Section 921, paragraph (21)(C) deletes the term "with the principal objective of livelihood and profit” and replaces it with “to predominantly earn a profit”. It also adds a new paragraph 22 which list only 2 reasons for private sales of firearms.

There are other issues that may or may not be troublesome to 2nd Amendment lovers. My personal issue is that a federal bureaucrat, most likely from BATFE or an appointee of an elected anti-gunner will be determining what your private sale is actually for. That the BATFE is asking for so many extra agents in their budget and given the weaponization of federal agencies against the individual or freedom loving group, how soon before classified forum posts from any forum become the new "rogue gun dealers" of the Brandons of this world?

My two cents.

The Washington Gun Law channel below makes the same point how compromise with anti-2A by giving an inch they take a mile. In addition to your well stated review the channel explains also how federal tax dollars are being held back from junior shooting and archery clubs which would eliminate them. Also the BSCA is being used to funnel tax dollars to

"...weaponized the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act to illegally fund ineligible ‘red flag’ laws.” The letter explained that “every ‘red flag’ gun confiscation law in this nation lacks sufficient and constitutional due process protections for gun owners,” and that the minimum due process protections demanded by the BSCA “are not in effect in a single state’s existing ‘red flag’ law statutes.”

 

[A1Oni]

the government should neck itself for this bullshit.

 

[Gordo]

**** .gov

Learn to spell '****' with 'PH' instead of an 'F'.

 

[popper]

"Background checks help prevent guns from being sold to people convicted of crimes, teenagers and others who are legally blocked from owning them, said the agency's director, Steve Dettelbach."
BS - doesn't stop anything.
From Colllin county
"Prosecutors also presented evidence that ****** was arrested in Harris County twice while in possession of firearms while on bond for this murder charge"
See a problem here?

 

[Eastexasrick]

The clock is ticking

On August 30, 2023, the Attorney General signed ATF’s notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM) 2022R-17, “Definition of ‘Engaged in the Business’

Definition of “Engaged in the Business” as a Dealer in Firearms | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

On August 30, 2023, the Attorney General signed ATF’s notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM) 2022R-17, “Definition of ‘Engaged in the Business’ as a Dealer in Firearms," which proposes to amend ATF’s regulations to implement the provisions of the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act (BSCA), enacted on...

www.atf.gov

 

[kbaxter60]

Wait. What were the "two reasons"?

 

[Eastexasrick]

Wait. What were the "two reasons"?

Yes two,
Slim, and None, and Slim just left town

 

[kbaxter60]

Yes two,
Slim, and None, and Slim just left town

Unless the reasons are practical. Like exempt if you transport the weapon to the point of sale in a boat.
I lost out on a lot of potential sales in exactly that manner.

 

[Hoji]

You still thinking a BOS will protect you? Serious question.

https://www.texasguntalk.com/thread...sal-background-checks-gaining-momentum.91855/

 

[BigRed]

atf. Take an oath to protect and defend the constitution of the united States. Spend a career raping and shredding it.

SCUM OF THE SCUM

 

[toddnjoyce]

The clock is ticking

On August 30, 2023, the Attorney General signed ATF’s notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM) 2022R-17, “Definition of ‘Engaged in the Business’

Definition of “Engaged in the Business” as a Dealer in Firearms | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

On August 30, 2023, the Attorney General signed ATF’s notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM) 2022R-17, “Definition of ‘Engaged in the Business’ as a Dealer in Firearms," which proposes to amend ATF’s regulations to implement the provisions of the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act (BSCA), enacted on...

www.atf.gov

It’s ready to start ticking. Aug 30 the proposed rule was submitted to the Federal Register. The clock starts when it’s published as an NPRM in the Federal Register.

It’s not published yet, but should be in the next week or three.