Abbott statement on gay court decision.

[Mexican_Hippie]

AS I am not Catholic I didn not read the 180 page encyclical. When you find someone who did get back to me.

If they change great, if they don't thats fine too.

Um, Ray22 said he did in his response to you.

 

[vmax]

They would probably say the same thing I would say if someone told me to prove anything like that to them...


"$#@! off, I have no reason to prove anything to you."

Then I put them in the category of radical support

They identify with a large group known for evil deeds yet will not speak out against it
How are we to know there are 2 groups of Muslims if the peaceful ones dont come out and tell us who they are ?
Evil triumphs when good people do nothing

 

[zincwarrior]

Um, Ray22 said he did in his response to you.

Mmm good catch.

 

[Younggun]

Then I put them in the category of radical support
Evil triumphs when good people do nothing

No one said anything about doing nothing.

Refusing to prove something to you is not equal to doing nothing. It's equal to not groveling for your respect.

 

[itchin]

What does it have to do with packing the fudge?

 

[ByrdMan]

What does it have to do with packing the fudge?

Radical Islamists pack fudge?

 

[zincwarrior]

What does it have to do with packing the fudge?

What does your statement have to do with anything other than you have a strange fascination with the phrase "pack fudge"?

 

[itchin]

What does your statement have to do with anything other than you have a strange fascination with the phrase "pack fudge"?

You do. It's like you're OBSESSED. Lol

 

[zincwarrior]

You do. It's like you're OBSESSED. Lol

At this point I have to ask, are you drunk? If so why so stingy? Share the wealth and pass the bottle.

 

[Jakashh]

They would probably say the same thing I would say if someone told me to prove anything like that to them...


"**** off, I have no reason to prove anything to you."

+1000000

No one said anything about doing nothing.

Refusing to prove something to you is not equal to doing nothing. It's equal to not groveling for your respect.

Yep.

 

[Savage805]

Number 5 for President!

 

[vmax]

No one said anything about doing nothing.

Refusing to prove something to you is not equal to doing nothing. It's equal to not groveling for your respect.

you miss read me. I could give a rats butt what they do.
However, if the muslims who claim that people like me are prejudging all the muslims because Islam is a religion on peace, then they need to speak up against the Nazi style fascism and violence.

Otherwise, just stay silent and I will assume that all 1.5 billion of them are ok with how the rest of the civilized world sees them. I am indifferent about it. I will continue to perceive them as they are being represented until I have new information to evaluate.

Who is getting the most attention as followers of islam today? Radical terrorist? Or peaceful followers?
Where is the news about Islam like homeless shelters, aid to displaced people driven from their land, human rights, women's rights, orphanages, and medical relief?
Christians do these things ever day in the name of Christ, because He commanded it.

 

[XinTX]

What does it have to do with packing the fudge?

Wait, did Tom Cruise show up or something?

 

[Jakashh]

you miss read me. I could give a rats butt what they do.
However, if the muslims who claim that people like me are prejudging all the muslims because Islam is a religion on peace, then they need to speak up against the Nazi style fascism and violence.

Otherwise, just stay silent and I will assume that all 1.5 billion of them are ok with how the rest of the civilized world sees them. I am indifferent about it. I will continue to perceive them as they are being represented until I have new information to evaluate.

Who is getting the most attention as followers of islam today? Radical terrorist? Or peaceful followers?
Where is the news about Islam like homeless shelters, aid to displaced people driven from their land, human rights, women's rights, orphanages, and medical relief?
Christians do these things ever day in the name of Christ, because He commanded it.

Guess we don't feel the need to broadcast it to the world.

Shia Islam requires 20% of yearly income (only applicable to those who can afford it) to be donated to charity to help unfortunate Muslims.

 

[vmax]

Guess we don't feel the need to broadcast it to the world.

Shia Islam requires 20% of yearly income (only applicable to those who can afford it) to be donated to charity to help unfortunate Muslims.

There is no pre-determined requirement or minimum set for what you can give in Christianity.
There is a reference in the Old Testament for one tenth, but that was the old Covenant, before Christ and the church age.

After Christ came and the church was established, the Bible in St Luke issues a challenge saying "Give and it will given unto you" In other words, give as God puts on your heart and you will receive blessings to great you cannot hold it all. Basically, you can't out give God.
And the giving is to all the worlds poor and needy, not to just to help fellow Christians. Also the sending of missionaries to feed the needy and spread the Gospel. Christ's example was to meet the physical needs of the people first, then the spiritual in that order.

 

[Mreed911]

The section on humanitarian response could easily lead me into a larger discussion about others, in region, being willing to go to Gaza during the siege - a place where paramedics were dying trying to save people. I strongly suspect at least one of them are of the Islamic faith who have a heart so love, serve and protect others. We MUST get past this religious divide determining our presumption around who's acting with evil intent, regardless if we think they're praying to the right deity or not.



I have my religious beliefs, and they compel and instruct me to act in certain ways at certain times. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. In any case, if the only thing I'm judged by is my adherence to a set of religious edicts, I've definitely read the scripture wrong.

 

[Jakashh]

There is no pre-determined requirement or minimum set for what you can give in Christianity.
There is a reference in the Old Testament for one tenth, but that was the old Covenant, before Christ and the church age.

After Christ came and the church was established, the Bible in St Luke issues a challenge saying "Give and it will given unto you" In other words, give as God puts on your heart and you will receive blessings to great you cannot hold it all. Basically, you can't out give God.
And the giving is to all the worlds poor and needy, not to just to help fellow Christians. Also the sending of missionaries to feed the needy and spread the Gospel. Christ's example was to meet the physical needs of the people first, then the spiritual in that order.

That was merely an example, not a summation of every Muslim case of charity. Plenty Muslim charities and relief efforts out there you've never made an effort to know about.

 

[Younggun]

Probably not worth your time.

 

[Jakashh]

Nope, hence the lack of effort lol

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

I only posted in here earlier to correct some inaccuracies, especially related to Catholicism and Christianity.

Just to be clear on my political position - I don't think marriage has anything to do with a license from .gov. The thought that the government can regulate a holy sacrament is laughable, and frankly, pissed me off when I had to go get it way back when.

Government should cease issuing them and quit acting like a church. If there's legal implications people should deal with it with contracts.