Abbott statement on gay court decision.

[ray22]

I only posted in here earlier to correct some inaccuracies, especially related to Catholicism and Christianity.

Just to be clear on my political position - I don't think marriage has anything to do with a license from .gov. The thought that the government can regulate a holy sacrament is laughable, and frankly, pissed me off when I had to go get it way back when.

Government should cease issuing them and quit acting like a church. If there's legal implications people should deal with it with contracts.

Well said and pretty much how I feel.

I will add one statement that I heard discussed today by an Arch Bishop, his idea would be that Priest and minsters of other denominations could return their license to preform marriages back to the state then marry a couple in the church so they would receive the sacrament but the couple would still have to have a civil service for legal status.

Govern wisely and as little as possible~Sam Houston

 

[Mreed911]

the couple would still have to have a civil service for legal status.

Or, in Texas, file a declaration of marriage.

The problem is you don't get the marriage license that so many other processes might require.

 

[Davetex]

burning card? Do you deny 6 churches have burned since the SC murders?

But none of those fires show evidence of being a hate crime and only two might be arson, investigators told CNN.

In the recent fires, evidence of arson was found at the Briar Creek Road Church in Charlotte but no evidence of a hate crime, said Charlotte Fire Department spokeswoman Cynthia Robbins Shah-Khan. The fire burned a building that housed classrooms, but did not affect the church's main sanctuary, Shah-Khan said. The African-American congregation there shares the church with a Nepalese congregation.


The fire at Greater Miracle Apostolic Church in Tallahassee, Florida, was likely caused when a tree limb fell on power lines, exposing electrical wires, fire officials said.

You fell for the hype didn't you.

 

[Double Action]

Well said and pretty much how I feel.

I will add one statement that I heard discussed today by an Arch Bishop, his idea would be that Priest and minsters of other denominations could return their license to preform marriages back to the state then marry a couple in the church so they would receive the sacrament but the couple would still have to have a civil service for legal status.

That is a great suggestion. I know our church is going to have to face this reality sooner rather than later. Performing a wedding as an act of faith instead of a government sanctioned union sounds like the way to do it.

 

[XinTX]

Just to be clear on my political position - I don't think marriage has anything to do with a license from .gov. The thought that the government can regulate a holy sacrament is laughable, and frankly, pissed me off when I had to go get it way back when.

Government should cease issuing them and quit acting like a church. If there's legal implications people should deal with it with contracts.

This is pretty much my feelings on the matter.

 

[zincwarrior]

This is pretty much my feelings on the matter.

Agreed. Government has no business being involved in the first place.

 

[vmax]

The gays made this a govermentv issue

Was any group complaining about marriage before ?

 

[zincwarrior]

The gays made this a govermentv issue

If the government says they can't get married, the government made this a government issue.

Was any group complaining about marriage before ?

You mean besides all the old married guys with me in the bar?

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

Gays can't be married in Gods eyes so they are seeking approval from the state. That's pretty much why this all came to be.

Everything they are looking for legally can already be accomplished w contracts. I'd be fine doing the same w contracts related to my marriage.

 

[zincwarrior]

Gays can't [\b] be married in Gods eyes so they are seeking approval from the state. That's pretty much why this all came to be.

As noted there are multiple faiths and denominations that disagree with you.

Everything they are looking for legally can already be accomplished w contracts. I'd be fine doing the same w contracts related to my marriage.

Mostly true. There are some perquisites in the law/government regulation where there still may be some differentiation, but that has been rapidly falling away.

 

[vmax]

If the government says they can't get married, the government made this a government issue.


You mean besides all the old married guys with me in the bar?

nobody told them they couldn't get married.

there were marriage ceremonies all over for gay couples long before this went to SCOTUS. The government figured they were losing out on making some money so they started charging for a license.

How did people get married if there was not government around? Oh, no, we have to set up a governmnet office and hire some clerks so we can print out a permit and charge for it, and then people can get married.

 

[vmax]

You mean besides all the old married guys with me in the bar?

good one

 

[zincwarrior]

How did people get married if there was not government around? Oh, no, we have to set up a governmnet office and hire some clerks so we can print out a permit and charge for it, and then people can get married.

Agreed hence the argument government should not be involved.

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

As noted there are multiple faiths and denominations that disagree with you.

Sure. There's also Satanists that wanted a black mass in OK City. It pissed me off but I let it be. I didn't riot or go try to stop them. God will sort them out.

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

Agreed hence the argument government should not be involved.

This I agree with.

 

[zincwarrior]

Sure. There's also Satanists that wanted a black mass in OK City. It pissed me off but I let it be. I didn't riot or go try to stop them. God will sort them out.

I thought their statue was funny as heck, although I think they are really just atheists trying to pull OK's chain.

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

I think they're just dust, wasting the short lives they've been given. Really sad.

 

[ContactLeft]

I think they're just dust, wasting the short lives they've been given. Really sad.

Yep, and their disdain and hatred for God is what drives their antics.

 

[Mreed911]

Gays can't be married in my Gods eyes

FTFY.

 

[ray22]

FTFY.

There's only one. So it was a waste of time to try and correct someone who is right.

Govern wisely and as little as possible~Sam Houston