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  • Maxpower

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    It is just nice to have the choice. Not to mention, that some law abiding people don't want a CCW, but still want to excercise their 2nd amendment RIGHTS !

    I use to live in Arizona and LOTS of open carry there. No one even batted an eye, walking into a grocery store or even a bank.

    Police open carry. No one freaks out to see THEM with a weapon.

    Only criminals don't worry about LAWS and they carry concealed anyway.

    Once people get use to the idea and take the shock value away, then it will seem normal.

    El Paso would be the same as Phoenix or Tucson to open carry. Hell, I use to carry my .500 S&W in the open. I never heard of there being a prob. with OC, except for the Obama rally deal. Even then, it was not a problem.

    What is the difference if the guy had it concealed or open? He was still LEGAL to do it.

    Not that I would have handled it that way, but it was still his RIGHT !


    I agree, I don't know how often I would ever OC (I have my CHL), I just want the right to OC
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    randmplumbingllc

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    I agree, I don't know how often I would ever OC (I have my CHL), I just want the right to OC

    EXACTLY ! I have 2 CCW;s, but sometimes it is nice to know that if YOU CHOOSE not to conceal, you won't be subject to charges.

    It's like anything else. You, in Texas, have had restaurant carry for a while now. Because people pushed for it, in light of Lubby's. Arizona just passed it this last session. Lots of people thought it crazy to have alcohol and guns together. No issues, no problems. Thats what will happen if and when they pass OC.......NOTHING
     

    Englishman

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    Help me understand a little better here

    In Open Carry states, the gun must be openly displayed at all times. Like if your shirt covered it when you sit or something, it just became concealed and therefore illegal. Is that how it works?
     

    Acetone

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    Some states that are considered Open Carry, any non-prohibited person may carry a firearm openly. Some of these states license you to carry concealed. NM for example you do not need to be licensed to OC, but do need a license for CC. Therefore if you are not licensed for CC and your gun becomes concealed, it is against the law. I hope that clears it up.
     

    Texas1911

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    I think the first step is changing the concealed carry permit to a carry permit. That would give you the option, and people could be educated about retention in the class.

    I think that would be met with alot less resistance in the Texas legislature.

    Then you could just push to eliminate the licensing process.

    Chipping away is the same methodology that lost our rights, so why not use it to gain back our rights.
     

    Fisherman777

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    I think the first step is changing the concealed carry permit to a carry permit. That would give you the option, and people could be educated about retention in the class.

    I think that would be met with alot less resistance in the Texas legislature.

    Then you could just push to eliminate the licensing process.

    Chipping away is the same methodology that lost our rights, so why not use it to gain back our rights.

    That sounds like a good plan.
     

    texas_teacher

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    I have no faith in KBH, that's why I'll be voting for Debra Medina.

    Here's what she has to say about open carry: "
    Debra on the Right to Keep and Bear Arms

    No compromise 2nd Amendment

    Gun ownership is essential to our liberty. Private property rights notwithstanding, the right to keep and bear arms should not be regulated or infringed. We Texans should be free to carry our arms openly, and any attempts to restrict gun ownership should be rejected."

    Outside of her 2nd Amendment stance she also stands for a lot of strong principals... I really like her positions at first glance...
     
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    I think the first step is changing the concealed carry permit to a carry permit. That would give you the option, and people could be educated about retention in the class.

    I think that would be met with alot less resistance in the Texas legislature.

    Then you could just push to eliminate the licensing process.

    Chipping away is the same methodology that lost our rights, so why not use it to gain back our rights.


    A-Men!!!. . . I believe if you can legally purchase and own a firearm, you should be able to carry it also. . . the licensing thing in the current pay-and-wait-forever form is 100% BS. . .
     

    Buck Nekkid

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    Just looked at Dera Medina's web site. I like her stances on many issues, but the overriding question is "Does she stand a snowballs chance?"

    I cannot think of one grassroots campaign by a virtual unknown that has ever succeeded in overthrowing an incumbant or a very high profile candidate. I wish her Godspeed, but I think her chances are slim and none. (but I do like her use of the Gonzales flag as a background)
     

    biglucky

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    Just looked at Dera Medina's web site. I like her stances on many issues, but the overriding question is "Does she stand a snowballs chance?"

    I cannot think of one grassroots campaign by a virtual unknown that has ever succeeded in overthrowing an incumbant or a very high profile candidate. I wish her Godspeed, but I think her chances are slim and none. (but I do like her use of the Gonzales flag as a background)

    I have seen some interesting things about her, but also have seen some very disturbing things about her. I am very undecided on her right now, supposedly she was a Sotomayor supporter.

    I think that KBH has it all wrong. She is all about the politics and all about winning like a typical politician. She has said some real scary shit lately about the Republican party being "too conservative" and that it should move to the "center". Personally I don't think that the Repubs are conservative enough and this centrist (read libtard) crap is what is killing the party. They talk like conservatives but then spend like the worst liberal.

    I personally would open carry all the time if it was allowed. I basically open carry now, because anyone see's my 6'2" 360 pound self walking down the street with a man purse thinks it is for any other reason than to carry a gun they are stupid. It is hard to conceal on your person when you have a bad case of dunlop syndrome. I would much rather just be able to put my M&P in my Serpa retention holster on my belt and go about my business..
     

    dpdtc

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    I personally do not think open carry is a good idea, and would not use it But-- I would enjoy being able to carry OWB instead of IWB without having to worry about the bottom of my holster showing below my shirt. I am not opposed to it being legal to do, if you so choose.
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    TexZaa

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    I don't feel an overwhelming urge to wear a pistol open for the world to see. Even if they changed the law tomorrow I would probably not open carry for reasons that are all my own. BUT...I'd be happy if they simply lighten up on the "failure to conceal" clauses.

    I'd love to not have to worry about someone seeing the muzzle of my .45 poke out from beneath my Hawaiian style shirt in the grocery store as I squat down to grab a product off of the bottom shelf. I'd love to be able wear a side holster and spare ammo with a casual jacket without having to be constantly conscious of whether the people at the table across from me can see it. As long as we make a reasonable attempt to conceal, I don't see why we should be penalized for an accident. Think about it, Brittany Spears couldn't even conceal her private parts from the poparrazi. She should try concealing a .45 Auto in the summertime.
     

    randmplumbingllc

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    I don't feel an overwhelming urge to wear a pistol open for the world to see. Even if they changed the law tomorrow I would probably not open carry for reasons that are all my own. BUT...I'd be happy if they simply lighten up on the "failure to conceal" clauses.

    I'd love to not have to worry about someone seeing the muzzle of my .45 poke out from beneath my Hawaiian style shirt in the grocery store as I squat down to grab a product off of the bottom shelf. I'd love to be able wear a side holster and spare ammo with a casual jacket without having to be constantly conscious of whether the people at the table across from me can see it. As long as we make a reasonable attempt to conceal, I don't see why we should be penalized for an accident. Think about it, Brittany Spears couldn't even conceal her private parts from the poparrazi. She should try concealing a .45 Auto in the summertime.

    She COULD ! You saw the pictures !
     

    RPB

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    I think the first step is changing the concealed carry permit to a carry permit. That would give you the option, and people could be educated about retention in the class.

    I think that would be met with alot less resistance in the Texas legislature.

    Then you could just push to eliminate the licensing process.

    Chipping away is the same methodology that lost our rights, so why not use it to gain back our rights.
    I wouldn't "open carry" intentionally for tactical reasons, but I'd like "open carry" passed or it changed to a "carry permit" just in case I get a box of cereal from the top shelf at a grocery store and discover that "my slip is showing"
     

    TexasR.N.

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    Open carry...........all for it. Don't know if I would or not, but for many of the reasons above, I don't like worrying if someone catches a "peak"..............
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    RPB

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    It may be that it has to be an intentional, rather than accidental unconcealment for it to be illegal, but I'd just like them to make "permit to carry" and let people be free to carry however they want to.
     

    onac255

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    Sorry to thread jack but does anyone know if it is legal for anyone (legally able) to open carry in NM or is it only NM residents/citizens?

    For example, I live in El Paso but shoot in NM sometimes and just want to know whether I can open carry in NM or if only NM residents can.
     

    txinvestigator

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    I'd love to not have to worry about someone seeing the muzzle of my .45 poke out from beneath my Hawaiian style shirt in the grocery store as I squat down to grab a product off of the bottom shelf.

    Why do you worry about that now?

    I'd love to be able wear a side holster and spare ammo with a casual jacket without having to be constantly conscious of whether the people at the table across from me can see it. As long as we make a reasonable attempt to conceal, I don't see why we should be penalized for an accident.
    You are not. Right now, unless you INTENTIONALLY fail to conceal, you are legal.
     
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