There Will be no Confiscation, You Will Hand Them Over

[oldag]

I understand and for the most part have to agree with the article. First of all, most of you don't really know what real freedom is. You believe things like "I bought this property and no one can take it from me" which is false. I don't care if you don't owe a dime on property, if the government wants your property they will take it. Most of you enjoy your lifestyle too much to imagine having to walk away from it, because if you buck the system that may be the first to go.

Having given up everything, except what I could carry, on my journey that led me from the northwest to eventually Texas, I have tasted freedom. I went off the grid and didn't have to look back. I owed nothing and can't really describe the feeling of freedom I felt. True, my kids are grown and I didn't have to worry about them, so that gave me an advantage over many in my decision.

Before you go and say that you will fight, look around you and ask yourself "can I truly give up all this?", because that may be your price.

Another advantage I have is that "things" don't mean as much to me as they once had. I live a simple life and can enjoy it with less. Can I give it all up again? I know I can, can you?

You may not be giving up anything that you would not soon lose regardless.

And as you point out, there are some ideals which are worth risking earthly possessions.

 

[easy rider]

You may not be giving up anything that you would not soon lose regardless.

And as you point out, there are some ideals which are worth risking earthly possessions.

My point is that it's easy for many to say they would fight for their rights, but when it comes to giving up a way of life for that, can they?

Many so called free people are chained to their way of life, it's not an easy decision to give it all up.

 

[Southpaw]

http://www.alloutdoor.com/2016/08/31/democrats-will-never-confiscate-guns-instead-youll-hand/

Author added an update to original piece:

Update: A number of commenters are misreading this article. The headline doesn’t say I’ll hand them them over — it says you will. And yeah, I’m trolling you a bit with the tone of this piece by saying what you “will” and “won’t” do, but it’s because I’m trying to slap you awake. The main point that’s being made is this: if you’re waiting for a door-to-door confiscation, or even a national gun registry, then you’ll be waiting forever. Folks who like to talk about a causus belli will need get more creative in coming up with a “bright line”, because the ones so many of you are waiting for won’t ever appear. If this article has spurred you to think more clearly about what the end of liberty might actually look like, and about what you’ll do under scenarios other than the classic door-to-door confiscation scenario, then it has done its job.

 

[Maverick44]

Refusal to comply with any new guns laws from this point forward would make the anti's plan of conquering us little by little much harder.

 

[texas skeeter]

My point is that it's easy for many to say they would fight for their rights, but when it comes to giving up a way of life for that, can they?

I can say this.... If "Someone/Whomever" Shows up to disarm me and My Family, there will be a firefight. Iam NOT going to just up and go along to get along. Where does any of us think we'll be if they take our weapons and we just stand aside and let them do it. Again just like the Jewish folks back in Germany. You think it's bad now with what our current Gvmnt has gotten away with over the last decade? Wait till we are disarmed....

 

[jrbfishn]

The Jews were also conditioned to not fight back. Most of us are not. Many of the younger generations, yes. But not most of us older ones at least.

from an idgit coffeeholic

 

[Usmc1911]

hard to believe people will just hand em over

 

[Davetex]

Learn from the past. I've never forgotten this quote from Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956.

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?

Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?

After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you’d be cracking the skull of a cutthroat.”

 

[Maverick44]

The Jews were also conditioned to not fight back. Most of us are not. Many of the younger generations, yes. But not most of us older ones at least.

from an idgit coffeeholic

You'd be surprised. I don't think generational differences come into play here. I know plenty of "millennials" who would fight just the same. The brainwashed masses will brainwash their kids. Plenty of you old timers () instilled patriotism and the will to fight for our rights in your kids. It took hold.

 

[Jack Ryan]

hard to believe people will just hand em over

Have there been any uprisings in NY? California? Illinois?

May be when they charge a fee and require permission to carry them. May be if they don't allow people to carry them in the open, oh, I mean when they make MAKE you carry them in the open. No I guess they've already done all that.

May be if they just take them from all the old people first. After all they are the ones who can really remember freedom first hand.

 

[easy rider]

I can say this.... If "Someone/Whomever" Shows up to disarm me and My Family, there will be a firefight. Iam NOT going to just up and go along to get along. Where does any of us think we'll be if they take our weapons and we just stand aside and let them do it. Again just like the Jewish folks back in Germany. You think it's bad now with what our current Gvmnt has gotten away with over the last decade? Wait till we are disarmed....

As the article was saying, they won't have to show up at your home. They can freeze your assets, possibly get you fired, etc. There are many things they can take away without even coming to your front door. Are you willing to lose that?

 

[Maverick44]

As the article was saying, they won't have to show up at your home. They can freeze your assets, possibly get you fired, etc. There are many things they can take away without even coming to your front door. Are you willing to lose that?

Yes

 

[TheDan]

Just find a thread about someone getting caught with a 17" barrel unregistered shotgun. Or a coke bottle with a hole in the end.

We don't do too good when it comes to standing up for our fellow gun owners. But I guess he was just dumb for ignoring the government infringements and having what he wanted.

Yep. It amazes me the joy many people seem to have in seeing someone else's life ruined over something that doesn't harm anyone.

I can say this.... If "Someone/Whomever" Shows up to disarm me and My Family, there will be a firefight. Iam NOT going to just up and go along to get along.

That moment will never come. What will happen is at some point something that is in your safe right now will become illegal. If you keep it, then you'll be a criminal on par in the eyes of the law with a rapist or murderer. Get comfortable with being a criminal and outlaw. All the good citizens will be so happy when you finally get caught, and people on gun forums will say how stupid you were for breaking the law.

 

[texas skeeter]

I will be comfortable being a criminal if they were to outlaw my Ar's and Ak's. But at that point they would not be found in my safe, but put away for a rainy day. Lol

 

[been2c]

I have friends and relatives who either don't believe it can happen a say they will bury their guns rather than turn them in. That's the same thing but not possible anyway. "They" know. It's either fight or capitulate.
Since "swat" was mentioned I want to throw out my latest epiphany. I think I finally know why so many seemingly benign government agencies have swat teams and why, if true, homeland security buys ammo. I think it is in preparation for a federal police force. As someone mentioned not all soldiers or LEOs will go along with repealing the 2nd. A federal force will be required. The latest civil unrest (BLM) or new civil unrest created by any draconian gun law implementation might cause will give the feds the reason to create a their own police force. A trained pool of personnel already exist in all the swat federal teams to be the core of the new homeland run agency.

 

[TheDan]

I will be comfortable being a criminal if they were to outlaw my Ar's and Ak's. But at that point they would not be found in my safe, but put away for a rainy day. Lol

...and your grandchildren will probably "de-mil" them or throw them in the lake after you're long gone. Many folks didn't comply when the NFA was passed, but it just resulted in an inheritance headache for decedents that didn't want to get in trouble.

 

[oldag]

...and your grandchildren will probably "de-mil" them or throw them in the lake after you're long gone. Many folks didn't comply when the NFA was passed, but it just resulted in an inheritance headache for decedents that didn't want to get in trouble.

I hope I have done a better job of raising my offspring than that...

 

[Shady]

at most I will turn over a couple of AR's That I stripped and moved all the parts to a 80% same goes for my glock 17 That will soon be on a 80% frame.

 

[FunnyFarm]

No... it'll be most.

No....it won't be most. We can do this all day. Do you have something to back this up?

 

[TheDan]

I hope I have done a better job of raising my offspring than that...

At least let them know it's there. It can be an unwelcome surprise to find something illegal hidden in grandpa's attic, or worse the next property owners find it and call the cops. Then your heirs get drug through an investigation since they are the ones that sold the property.

Personally it would be a welcome surprise to find something like that, but I'm already a scofflaw