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  • sobi1998

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    Ran across an article about a biologist at LSU that is controlling the hogs with GUMMY BEARS! Claims the sodium nitrate in the candy will deoxygenate the hogs blood and slowly kills them. Sodium nitrate is a food preservative that humans can digest but not hogs.
    Just like any other poison, you want to control what eats it. So you'd have to keep it away from deer and any other critter besides hogs. I wonder how effective this would be?
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    http://www.iberianet.com/opinion/co...cle_b104fc7a-364d-11e4-b5e2-0019bb2963f4.html


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    Except for the most vile criminals, I'm not in favor of a slow death for any creature. Quick and humane I say.
     

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    I'd rather use a rifle and eat the gummy bears while waiting for the hogs.


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    And if your rifle can kill 50-100 Hogs with one shot we could get a handle on the problem. When you get one or two or even ten it's not enough to do any good.

    If your house is infested with roaches you don't stomp them one at a time. You spray the entire home with poison and keep treating it until you are sure they are all dead.
     

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    And if your rifle can kill 50-100 Hogs with one shot we could get a handle on the problem. When you get one or two or even ten it's not enough to do any good.

    If your house is infested with roaches you don't stomp them one at a time. You spray the entire home with poison and keep treating it until you are sure they are all dead.

    Can be done.

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    While it is possible to shoot pigs in large numbers from trucks in some places it just does not work in most situations. Pastures are too small, have too many wooded areas or there are draws and hills to breakup hunting. Most of this footage looks like it's planted and I know few farmers that will let you drive on their fields.

    The only real answer is carefully controlled and administered poison that only affects the target species. That rules out cyanid and other more traditional poisons. Sodium nitrate is used in sausage making and it's deadly to pigs. It might be a good choice if we can get the hogs to eat enough of it from a deer proof hog feeder.


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    So now you're back to the dilemma of the person that unknowingly harvests a hog and feeds it to his family...

    As in eats a poisoned hog?
    If that's what you mean and if I understand the poison correctly, it shouldn't harm humans anyway. But I'd think in most cases the hog would be dead before anyone could hunt it


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    As in eats a poisoned hog?
    If that's what you mean and if I understand the poison correctly, it shouldn't harm humans anyway. But I'd think in most cases the hog would be dead before anyone could hunt it


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    Incorrect. Takes days for them to die
     

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    While it is possible to shoot pigs in large numbers from trucks in some places it just does not work in most situations. Pastures are too small, have too many wooded areas or there are draws and hills to breakup hunting. Most of this footage looks like it's planted and I know few farmers that will let you drive on their fields.

    The only real answer is carefully controlled and administered poison that only affects the target species. That rules out cyanid and other more traditional poisons. Sodium nitrate is used in sausage making and it's deadly to pigs. It might be a good choice if we can get the hogs to eat enough of it from a deer proof hog feeder.


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    Trapping is the most effective that has the least impact on not targets.
     

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    Incorrect. Takes days for them to die

    The poison isn't lethal to humans so unless it taints the meat in some way to make it uneatable I think we'd be fine. Not suggesting going out and eating a poisoned hog but you get what I mean.
    Now there is always the case that scavengers will eat the animal and get poisoned but that happens with majority of poisons and that's a risk the person would have to consider.
    Personally, I probably wouldn't poison them because they're not a huge problem where I hunt and there's a lot of scavengers and deer to worry about. I'd only suggest this to people overrun by pigs and have no other option


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    This could drive up the cost of gummy bears. Are we really prepared for that kind of impact? And let's not forget gummy worms.


    I'm all for controlling the growing hog problem, but not at the expensive of such a wonderful snack.


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    Or the deer, birds, cattle that eat the leftovers as well as the carrion eaters that feed on the carcasses.

    Deer can't eat out of deer proof hog feeders. Cattle can't get to the feeders because they need to be enclosed in pens. Likewise birds can't get into the feeders and carrion eaters and people are not affected by the poison.
     

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    So now you're back to the dilemma of the person that unknowingly harvests a hog and feeds it to his family...

    So you're worried about poisoning hogs with an ingredient used for making sausages, because people might use the hog meat tainted with sausage ingredient to make hog sausages?

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    And if your rifle can kill 50-100 Hogs with one shot we could get a handle on the problem. When you get one or two or even ten it's not enough to do any good.

    If your house is infested with roaches you don't stomp them one at a time. You spray the entire home with poison and keep treating it until you are sure they are all dead.

    Except for the most vile criminals, I'm not in favor of a slow death for any creature. Quick and humane I say.
    I have a solution for both of you. Bait with gummies of your choice then...

     

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    If there really was a hog "problem", there wouldn't be people charging $400 to shoot one.

    I know several people that let us hunt their places for free because they want them gone, and were fairly effective.

    I also know quite a few people that trap hogs and they end up being sold to ranches to turn out for guided hunts.
     
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