Olmos Park, TX arresting people for open carry
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According to HRC I believe we all here fit the deplorable moniker.
If you're a responsible gun owner and don't get into people's faces about it then why would anyone assume you're a member of OCT? I'm still failing to see how they make "the rest of us" look bad except to the very people who already don't like ANY gun owner.
Yes, it's a shame that our legislators behave like petty children because someone dared to disrespect them.
Because they make gun owners look like buffoons. And that means their actions affect non-gun owners opinions of ALL of us. Contrary to your opinion, all non-gun owners don't have a negative opinion of all gun owners. But when dickheads like those guys make a spectacle, and generally offend sensibilities, it affects those people's opinions about all gun owners.
REality is there are many, many folks who are in the middle. Guys like the OCT, and BLM are IMO of the same ilk. Making a big deal out of what should not be a big deal.
I hate what OCT does; however, it should be no big deal to carry a loaded rifle in public in a manner so as NOT to cause alarm, or to OC a pistol (by a licensed person not violating any other law). It is not against state law or federal law.
Somebody made it an issue. Different minds differ on who upped the ante that day. But never forget that exercise of a civil right does not demand an armed response from ANYONE.
Somebody made it an issue. Different minds differ on who upped the ante that day. But never forget that exercise of a civil right does not demand an armed response from ANYONE.
"Our side?!?" Sorry, but these self-serving idiots are not on "our side." Grisham has a record of instigating encounters with cops, and crying like a baby when he is rightfully arrested. OCT acted like morons when open carry was being considered by the Texas legislature, and almost got the bill killed. Both are highly detrimental to a lot of people's efforts to advance gun rights in this state.
Join them if you want, they're always looking for more clowns to be in their circus; but one of these days their antics are going to land them into some very serious trouble and as always, they will be blaming someone else for it. And when that causes us to lose those hard-won rights you will know exactly who you can thank!
Betas betaing about other beta's beta behavior.
That's why I take beta blockers.
There's always going to be someone somewhere acting a fool. Lay the blame of constitutional carry not passing on the legislators that got upset because they were disrespected and decided to "punish" us common folk by not passing it.
...or maybe they were never going to pass it to begin with and just used it as a lame excuse.
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Yeah.....because TSRA has been such a driving force for OC over the years.....
OCT and Texas Carry put OC in the public eye long before TSRA jumped on the wagon. And I don't see TSRA pushing hard for CC in this upcoming session....
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OCT and Grisham gave them the public fodder to "prove" why the state wasn't ready for constitutional carry.
They are a extremely small segment of the gun community whose antics spoiled it for everyone else.
Don't blame the legislature when these clowns were idiotic enough to publicly demonstrate how immature and irresponsible gun owners can be.
Grisham and OCT need to shut up and go away. Let the adults handle this.
The legislature are the ones who have total control over the process. They should know that a vocal minority does not represent the majority. Apologizing for them legislating to the lowest common denominator is how we got these restrictions placed on us in the first place.
https://www.expressnews.com/news/lo...eals-law-that-blocked-open-carry-12805003.php
Well another San Antonio area city repeals its unlawful ordinance.
Well another San Antonio area city repeals its unlawful ordinance.
That is the way I see it. I don't think open carry was really on many people's radars till CJ's situation went viral. I'd argue that if it wasn't for OCT bringing more attention to it there wouldn't have been nearly as much pressure for the legislature to do anything about it.
You give OCT/Grisham far too much credit then they deserve. In fact, OC was on the radar long before his little shenanigan in 2013; but I am not surprised that he probably feels he was the catalyst for it!
Speaking of which, Grisham's situation involved a rifle therefore had absolutely nothing to do with the initiative to allow the open carry of handguns. In fact, he was wrong in the belief that a peace officer wasn't allowed to disarm him. That is clearly stated in the Government Code. If he wants to be a self-proclaimed champion of a cause, then he should have a better understanding of the current laws that apply!
Again, San Antonio itself has the same ordinance on the book...when is your almighty Grisham going to attack it?
http://codes.findlaw.com/tx/government-code/gov-t-sect-411-207.html
Oh yes, "reasonable belief" is so clear. Pretty fortunate for officers that they rarely have to justify or articulate their "reasonable belief" to any higher authority.
The courts upheld the officer had the legal right to disarm Grisham.
Just because you and OCT don't agree with the actions and decisions of those involved doesn't mean you're right...
