Opposing the Transgender Movement

[benenglish]

I still consider this to be enlightened advice and, in the late 1960s when my parents first told me this, it was far ahead of its time. They used to tell me: "The smarter a man is, the more he thinks like a woman. The smarter a woman is, the more she thinks like a man."

I won't take an hour to unpack that. There's a lot to consider.

However, I will say this: It's possible to take any valid observation about the state of humanity and push it to an extreme where it becomes absurd.

Nowadays, I see absurdity all around me.

 

[Wildcat Diva]

My kids have NOT gotten a good education at home. I’ve worked 30 hours a week, but a 12-7 shift while Dad is home by 4. Even so, we pretty much failed at formal education. I pretty much figure that that’s ok. We have provided good enriching experiences through Scouts and going to libraries and museums and zoos and such. They can function as well as I see most adults functioning, so I shrug. They have decent IQ through genetics and are able to teach themselves what they want to learn. 14 year old taught himself to build a computer. Math is the biggest problem to our approach though. We can work on that.

I don’t see that their lives will be much different from skipping public education. We will still start at community college, early even. Maybe my two youngest will need some remedial classes. That’s ok.

Regular college is WAY too expensive and the interests and aptitudes my crew has don’t match up to degrees that match up to a career. We thumb our nose at the mainstream and we will see what kind of mixed bag we get.

Most people don’t know in Texas that I can by rights give my kids a diploma that by law is equal to that of the public schools. Transcript is another thing, but you can get creative on that too to get you through a door. There is no standard that any homeschool “course” must meet. That can be a blessing or a curse. I think for us it will be a blessing.

We have missed out on our kids getting brainwashed by government employees though, that’s the best result.

They also won’t have a lot of idle time with peers to be exposed to crappy culture. As a result, we mainly listen to music from bands that started when I was young. No rap here, unless it’s old school rap.

I figure they will survive and the experiement will yield ok results. We’ve managed to stay out of the juvenile courts so far. XD

 

[deemus]

We used Abecca curriculum on our oldest. She was 1 1/2 grades ahead (per testing) after one year of home schooling. Not everyone is that way, but she is a brilliant kid.

Had some friends that home schooled their kids all years. The oldest went to Baylor and got an accounting degree, and had a 4.0 the entire trip. That is NOT an easy degree.

Your kids might surprise you. I think the home school can be great. We only did one kid as my wife struggled to make it happen.

 

[Wildcat Diva]

I think that no matter what happens we are NOT wanting to pay for a big college anyways. I don’t see any degree that I think would make sense for my kids anyways, even the smartest one that’s finished with his associates (we did that with the eldest for homeschool and to get a jump on what he might want to do next, because he was capable and willing, unlike my other two) pretty much and ready to move on. To what?

Even taking a career inventory, nothing matches up to what we would be willing to spend a mint to get a degree in. History? Psychology? Music? Those are his aptitudes and interests. Pay $25,000 MORE (plus books plus so many other hidden costs) to go on from here to the next level (Bachelors Degree, two more years)? No thanks. (And no, he has no interest in becoming a teacher).

 

[deemus]

I don’t think that no matter what happens we are wanting to pay for a big college anyways. I don’t see any degree that I think would make sense for my kids’ anyways, even the smartest one that’s finished with his associates pretty much and ready to move on. To what?

Even taking a career inventory, nothing matches up to what we would be willing to spend a mint to get a degree in. History? Psychology? Music? Those are his aptitudes and interests. Pay $25,000 (plus books plus so many other hidden costs) to go on from here to the next level (Bachelors Degree, two more years)? No thanks.

If you live close to a college, or a family member does, that could shave thousands from that. Had one kid live at home but got their bachelors. Made it very affordable. She is now married and working on her masters...... in counseling. lol

 

[easy rider]

If they are only going for two years there are many things that will help in a career other than academics.

 

[Wildcat Diva]

If you live close to a college, or a family member does, that could shave thousands from that. Had one kid live at home but got their bachelors. Made it very affordable. She is now married and working on her masters...... in counseling. lol

That that I quoted WAS ONLY the classes. In state tuition. $1,085 per class. No books, no other expenses. That IS factored in living at home, going to UHCL. (that is ALSO factoring in a three semester $750 semester transfer student scholarship offered) Is there a university that’s cheaper than $1085 per class?

 

[Wildcat Diva]

If they are only going for two years there are many things that will help in a career other than academics.

He’s already finished with two years. None of the associates of applied science degrees spoke to him. We did straight academics and aren’t sorry, but when we look at the applied science degrees, he would have to, if starting one now, take almost as many classes again as he would to go on the bachelor’s level, albeit at a MUCH cheaper (1/3) cost per class.

 

[easy rider]

That that I quoted WAS ONLY the classes. In state tuition. $1,085 per class. No books, no other expenses. That IS factored in living at home, going to UHCL. (that is ALSO factoring in a three semester $750 semester transfer student scholarship offered) Is there a university that cheaper than $1085 per class?

What I meant is a community college offers certificates along with degrees. They could work on a career certificate and if they wanted can then take the academics required for a degree. I have had many students that are only looking to gain the skills needed to become a weldor and not really interested in having a degree in welding.

 

[Wildcat Diva]

Yeah. We are talking to him about trying machinist classes along with his brother. He’s not really my mechanical one. He kinda takes after his momma. I can’t put on a garden hose on a spicket without cross threading it.

There all the chemical plants all around here... so maybe he can pick up a skill to use there. He works at a hardware store for now.

 

[easy rider]

Yeah. We are talking to him about trying machinist classes along with his brother. He’s not really my mechanical one. He kinda takes after his momma. I can’t put on a garden hose on a spicket without cross threading it.

I can't speak for all CC's but ours offers criminal justice, culinary arts, firefighting and nursing to name a few.

 

[Wildcat Diva]

He’s already a student at CC. Pretty sure he is not actually interested in anything offered as a certificate or trade there.

We are gonna have to force him into something I guess.

 

[easy rider]

He’s already a student at CC. Pretty sure he is not actually interested in anything offered as a certificate or trade there.

We are gonna have to force him into something I guess.

The good thing is that most all will transfer to a major college if he decides to continue his education later on.

 

[easy rider]

At our CC, they are trying to implement some 4 year degrees also.

 

[oldag]

He’s already a student at CC. Pretty sure he is not actually interested in anything offered as a certificate or trade there.

We are gonna have to force him into something I guess.

Any interest in vocational schooling or apprenticeships? Some very good money can be made via this route, without incurring huge debt.

 

[Southpaw]

Diva, your honesty is greatly appreciated here. Homeschooling has at times given me great moments of doubt but it's experiences like yours that get me through those moments and back on track.

 

[Wildcat Diva]

The good thing is that most all will transfer to a major college if he decides to continue his education later on.

He already pretty much has his two years worth of core classes/ electives already ready to transfer (three more classes to go on that( but anything else maybe could count as electives?

That’s why we were looking at four year degrees, he’s almost already taken enough at the two year level to gain an AA in general liberal arts (core academics). Why stay at this level and keep moving sideways, we are thinking, unless there’s a trade or skill he just loves, but there isn’t.

Not sure, I think the bachelor degrees require those additional electives to be taken at the big money level and not so much at CC.

 

[Wildcat Diva]

Any interest in vocational schooling or apprenticeships? Some very good money can be made via this route, without incurring huge debt.

I wish he did. We may try to push him towards this area. He doesn’t know what’s out there, though.
We will try going to job fairs.

Middle brother fits that bill (taking machinist classes) and may have an easier time of it than my academic one.

 

[Wildcat Diva]

Diva, your honesty is greatly appreciated here. Homeschooling has at times given me great moments of doubt but it's experiences like yours that get me through those moments and back on track.

Thank you. Let’s get this all down to earth is how I look at it. Glad it helps.

 

[easy rider]

Electives depend on the degree that is being pursued. Has he given any thought to business management?