Millennial Men Leave Perplexing Hole in a Hot U.S. Labor Market

[dsgrey]

Interesting read. Son is 28, no degree, works in the same field as I and makes more money - timing is everything. Son-in-law is 27 and what I deem a professional student. Changed majors multiple times, finally got a BS, couldn't get his perfect job where he only wanted to work at 3 possible companies in the US and now going back for his masters.

Funny part is one is a conservative and the other is a liberal. Guess which!

 

[smittyb]

I ended up working in a totally different industry. The offers were low, yes, however I would’ve had an hour commute without traffic both ways everyday and that wasn’t worth it to me.

I had already moved out of my parents home while looking for a job. They don’t pay anything for me. I pay my own way for everything


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I’m gonna stay off the bandwagon, and say good job, Gilbert.

 

[smittyb]

Don't get me started!!!! Virtual effin pets, kids, armies, and worlds...dumped on the generation lost to crack addiction.

Now it's opiates. Wish I could find some, to use for their intended purpose, pain medication, not get high and escape reality.

Yep....potheads are quick to point fingers at alcoholics, but usually, the alcoholics are working while battling their disease. Just legalize pot man, we aren't hurting anyone....not the point, bro! Life isn't about taking up space, and being so spaced out you can't see how your unproductive support is "hurting " somebody. It's about what YOU contribute to your fellow man.

I am extremely proud of my small part in contributing to my fellow man. People want to dis the rich, but many times, they got there by enriching the lives of many. Not only by providing employment for their employees, but providing value to their consumers.

Hell yeah!!!! Screw that rich bsrd Bill Gates!!!! Let's all dump our puters in the Boston harbor.

I have been an employer. But moreso, I have dedicated much of my time and resources to others. I would hear a skillsaw or hammering and be drawn like a moth to a flame. I was born too late for barn raisings, but that's the general idea. My ex wife once told someone looking for me, "Follow the noise, you know Doug, he's going to be where the work is."

I couldn't pass up an open hood, either. Many times I helped my neighbors fix their vehicles.

Then....there's the walking dead. SOOO many people I picked up walking and gave a ride and slipped them some cash when we got there.

And guess what? I'm still here. No fear. No real worries about people taking from me, because the real joy in life is in giving, not receiving. "The man with the most toys wins" is bullshit. They can only put so much in a casket.

I've opened my home to many over the years, most recent was a pair of lesbians, one of whom flagged me down for a ride to the pawn shop. She flat out lied to me! Said she didn't do drugs. It came up she wanted to know where to camp, I said she was welcome to my backyard. Then I thought about it, and said: "Screw it, y'all just crash in the house."

It was just a little later I found out they were crackheads. I wound up meeting her mother and found out they were Colombians. Her mother spoke English very well, to the point she could relate to me how she hated her daughter's girlfriend with proper cuss words.

Later, from the horses mouth how this woman she loved had turned her life into a constant party.

I was still willing to let them move in, but took some precautions. I layed out a bullet proof vest, a pair of handcuffs, a walkie talkie that could pass for something a cop might use, a ball cap that said "POLICE " on it, and a 911 look alike bb pistol on the couch.

At this point in time, I was acting as her empowerer in giving her a ride to get the crap and smoke it at. Needless to say, nothing about it made me happy. But, I didn't see the value of turning her out to the streets. She came in, and sat on the couch, with this pile of stuff between us. I waited for about 10-15minutes until I could no longer take it. I said:"What's that next to you?" She jumped like she had seen a snake." WTF is this?" Previously on a ride to the scrap yard, she asked me what I did. I told her I was a cop, but then said I was kidding, and I was a carpenter. So now I said, "I told you I was a cop, I'm a Ft. Worth cop, right now they have me working narcotics."

She was visibly shaking, I got up very close and personal with her, and said in a very calm voice, I'm a carpenter, but this is a small taste of what I'm capable of. Then I got up nearly nose to nose and nearly screamed : " DON'T F WITH ME, YOU DO, AND I'LL F YOU OVER 100 TIMES WORSE."

Her girlfriend went to jail. I think she may have too. But months later, I saw her and her mother in an Applebee's restaurant while there with my ex..
She looked good. One glance told me she was off that mess, back with mom's good graces, and....since I knew where they lived, obviously had a car again.

Did my BS cause that? I doubt it. But did my actions keep her out of harms way while she found her back? I think so.

I haven't seen her since, and I like to think that they are doing well. I'll take that over the nicest, most expensive gun anybody here owns, and I know she knows I'm here, and the door is always open, so I believe she is doing well, or she would come where getting high is damn near free and easy.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.

Look, Hillbilly is back.

 

[GeorgeandSugar]

Not surprised. When you consider the "stimulus" Obama supported and pushed, not a penny I could read went to stimulating the economy. Fat waste of money. Then again, expecting something and not willing to attain the skill sets or putting in your time to achieve a salary desirable can be an obstacle. Ugh.


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[sharkey]

I have had this conversation with my wife's boss who besides needing a nanny is a franchise owner of several retail stores. Also spoke with a buddy that owns a couple Subways. The main issue is that the work ethic of millennials is atrocious. I would imagine that whoever mentioned the difference between those in cities and towns is most likely true. Where I work we hire lots of folks many white males but they all have degrees and are engineering types and I don't have much interaction with them anyway but they don't seem to be a problem.

When I got canned the first and so far only time, I was 42. I was out of work for 9 months trying to get jobs in my field but I was persona non grata and agencies were looking for young folks to mold. Before I started to work for the state (at a serious decrease in pay), I even applied to be a sales person, I was desperate at that point. Pushing 50 soon and I have had 5 jobs in basically 30 years and I can proudly say I got all of them from my skills, experience, and interview skills. I never had an in or a friend help me out. That said, I really don't think employers have much loyalty to their employees anymore. It is a brave new world.

 

[Darkpriest667]

Just remember kids, the minimum wage was 1.70 in 1970.. In REAL dollars thats 11.35 in 2018. So the minimum a boomer was earning was 11.35. So let's not act like you guys weren't starting off with better wages and lower costs. You were.

And then there is social security. The average boomer paid in just about 35000 dollars (total) into Social security. they can expect to receive a benefit if they retire at 67 and live only to 77 of 380,000 dollars. A 1000% increase in their investment. Millennials now make up 35% of the work force. They pay the majority of the social security dollars and FICA taxes... Oh and by the way.. Social security now eats up 30% of the budget and we are now paying 8% of our entire federal budget paying on interest for loans we have to take to pay for social security.


So excuse me if I don't kiss your asses while I pay for your retirement.

 

[Gilbertc13]

"My car gets 200 miles per tank."

Oh well, of course, your car's milage is a huge factor that can't be changed..you do realize that sort of statement gives you the stamp of 'millennial' whining...

C'mon, Gilbert, you sound like the guy who won't accept a job unless it pays massively, or, you'll huff and puff until your parents boot you out..no, I'm not saying you actually live off their largesse, but you 'sound' like an entitled mill...take a job and start working or complain you're not given your due..and not work.

Starting out at pay that doesn't meet your expectations - welcome to the real world.

High pay will come, but not immediately..

Did you read any of my posts? I did take a job. One that’s extremely rewarding. I’ve never not had a job since I was old enough to work. I wasn’t one of the people that came out of school expecting 100k a year.

And I’ve already moved out without support financially from my parents. So they can’t boot me because I already left.


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[AustinN4]

The average boomer paid in just about 35000 dollars (total) into Social security.

Not sure where you got that number, but I know I paid in way more than that. So much so that the only way I will get just the money I paid in back (no interest) is if I live to be a 100, which I doubt is happening since no one in my family has ever made it out of the 70s.

 

[Vaquero]

Just remember kids, the minimum wage was 1.70 in 1970.. In REAL dollars thats 11.35 in 2018. So the minimum a boomer was earning was 11.35. So let's not act like you guys weren't starting off with better wages and lower costs. You were.

And then there is social security. The average boomer paid in just about 35000 dollars (total) into Social security. they can expect to receive a benefit if they retire at 67 and live only to 77 of 380,000 dollars. A 1000% increase in their investment. Millennials now make up 35% of the work force. They pay the majority of the social security dollars and FICA taxes... Oh and by the way.. Social security now eats up 30% of the budget and we are now paying 8% of our entire federal budget paying on interest for loans we have to take to pay for social security.


So excuse me if I don't kiss your asses while I pay for your retirement.

We didn't set up the system.
We didn't get a choice wether to participate or not.
Excuse me for calling BS.

 

[TheMailMan]

Just remember kids, the minimum wage was 1.70 in 1970.. In REAL dollars thats 11.35 in 2018. So the minimum a boomer was earning was 11.35. So let's not act like you guys weren't starting off with better wages and lower costs. You were.

And then there is social security. The average boomer paid in just about 35000 dollars (total) into Social security. they can expect to receive a benefit if they retire at 67 and live only to 77 of 380,000 dollars. A 1000% increase in their investment. Millennials now make up 35% of the work force. They pay the majority of the social security dollars and FICA taxes... Oh and by the way.. Social security now eats up 30% of the budget and we are now paying 8% of our entire federal budget paying on interest for loans we have to take to pay for social security.


So excuse me if I don't kiss your asses while I pay for your retirement.

Sorry dude but your math is WAY off.

For your example boomer to get $380,000 in 10 years they would have to receive $3167 a month. NO ONE who retires at 67 receives that amount. This fact alone casts your entire rant into question. Also Social Security is not a budget item. Social Security is self funding. In actual fact Congress couldn't keep their hands off the pot of money that Social Security was sitting on so they raided the fund and replaced it with .gov bonds. Again, you need better sources.

Where ever you're getting this information is filling you full of shit.

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

Millennials swallow whole leftist propaganda/figures and then self righteously/indignantly spout as fact.

That these figures are made up to sow disisfaction is plain to see in the one of the preceding, bitter posts..

 

[Brains]

I fall between the Boomers and the Millennials - a Gen X'er. Our generation has long been told to not rely on Soc. Sec. even being there by the time we retire, but we all know it will be - it'll just be built on a foundation of underfunded (or raided fund) liabilities. Even then, the amount paid out is not enough for what I consider a comfortable retirement.

Honestly, based on the amount I've personally paid in, plus the amount employers are required to pay on top of that, I certainly would like to have been able to self-invest that money rather than have it contribute to the fund. It's a mathematical fact I'll never recoup my "investment" and would have been able to do significantly better on my own. But you can't have these programs be successful for people who don't want to plan for their own future, without taking away the choice to participate. Obamacare for retirement, as it were. I'm not against Soc. Sec. (and Medicare), I just want the choice whether to participate and benefit.

 

[karlac]

I would imagine that whoever mentioned the difference between those in cities and towns is most likely true.

I'm apparently that particular racist.

And you're right, generally speaking it's hard not to notice that the closer you get to the "soil" (country, small towns, far from the big urban areas), the more pronounced the work ethic of the youngsters.

I've lived in one of the wealthiest cities in the US for 30 years and can't remember the last time I've seen one of these kids mow a lawn, or even take out the gargage ... hell, you rarely see them outside except on Halloween.

Most of them are really good kids ... but the parents miserably fail them in life lessons.

.... Pushing 50 soon and I have had 5 jobs in basically 30 years and I can proudly say I got all of them from my skills, experience, and interview skills. I never had an in or a friend help me out.

^ That is called "work ethic".

That said, I really don't think employers have much loyalty to their employees anymore. It is a brave new world.

My Dad, a WWII Vet, worked for Standard of Texas, which eventually morphed into Chevron and retired handsomely at 62, after 30 years.

From my perspective his generation was the last to have that type of job security. I worked until 73 and, loving what I did, would still be doing so it, but for hitting the ground too hard, too many times.

 

[sharkey]

I fall between the Boomers and the Millennials - a Gen X'er. Our generation has long been told to not rely on Soc. Sec. even being there by the time we retire, but we all know it will be - it'll just be built on a foundation of underfunded (or raided fund) liabilities. Even then, the amount paid out is not enough for what I consider a comfortable retirement.

Honestly, based on the amount I've personally paid in, plus the amount employers are required to pay on top of that, I certainly would like to have been able to self-invest that money rather than have it contribute to the fund. It's a mathematical fact I'll never recoup my "investment" and would have been able to do significantly better on my own. But you can't have these programs be successful for people who don't want to plan for their own future, without taking away the choice to participate. Obamacare for retirement, as it were. I'm not against Soc. Sec. (and Medicare), I just want the choice whether to participate and benefit.

GB2 wanted folks to be able to self invest but the left no likee. It would mean they couldn't keep putting IOUS in the form of bonds in the SS kitty.

SS is a joke. When we rely on govt. For our retiremen, we get dog food and substandard housing.

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[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

"GB2 wanted folks to be able to self invest but the left no likee."

I remember that and hoped it would happen, but as Brains said, the left killed it.

 

[Moonpie]

Social Security was never intended to be a persons sole retirement income. What was intended was to keep people from being completely destitute in their old age.
The SS fund would be doing fine had the DEMOCRAT politicians left the fund alone instead of raiding the hell out of it to pay for pork projects.
As usual the losers, deadbeats and greedy bastards wrecked it for all.

 

[BRD@66]

Social Security was never intended to be a persons sole retirement income. What was intended was to keep people from being completely destitute in their old age.
The SS fund would be doing fine had the DEMOCRAT politicians left the fund alone instead of raiding the hell out of it to pay for pork projects.
As usual the losers, deadbeats and greedy bastards wrecked it for all.

I believe that it happened on the watch of a Texas boy who got promoted upon the death of a guy from Mass.

 

[smittyb]

I believe it happens whether it’s Dems or Reps in charge.
They are all crooked and all love pork.

 

[Gilbertc13]

Huh? Wow. Apparently, you didn't connect the dots, did you?

In the beginning ....there were Adam and Eve.....well, ....go back to the BEGINNING. What's the title of this thread?

Is this not a thread about millennials and their outlooks and approach to life?

Is my post somehow not pertinent to that? Are you so closed minded that you think your way is the only way? Can you justify how hording wealth benifits your fellow man?

No....It's pertinent, and VERY to the point at hand, it's not enough to support yourself ( in your mind), it's what the end results of your actions are.

Being self- sufficient is only half-ass. So, my point being, being a sponge is below dispicable. Giving is the goal.

I could get in pissing matches all day long with the spin-offs, starting with what do you do when you're out of work, but you are self- employed, and taking a job means time you can't use to actively pursue jobs that, at any moment, could make you more money in weeks than you could make in months working a job. It's a tricky situation, believe me. Not only that, but the opportunity to enrich others lives in a very real and substantial way goes away as well.

I'm no stranger to hard work. Worked my way up job to job until I was making damn good money, but I made more self-employed.

Gilbert, how's the Beaver? JK. Follow your dream, man. Not too many here realize the work and effort required to get where you are in the world of golf.

They also don't realize the paychecks that will follow, should the stars align. Once there, I'm sure there will be plenty of people telling you to give back. I'm saying it now, to everyone in earshot....give. You don't have to make millions before you can share. But, personally, I hope Gilbert does. Meanwhile , he can work in the industry until he hits the big time.

My hats off to you sir, I, for one , am not going to belittle you in any way shape or form. You are DOING JUST FNG FINE, and screw the heads up their butts folks that don't understand square pegs don't fit in round holes.

Thanks man! I read some of your old posts and saw you’re a golfer! Respect


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[MTA]

Just remember kids, the minimum wage was 1.70 in 1970.. In REAL dollars thats 11.35 in 2018. So the minimum a boomer was earning was 11.35. So let's not act like you guys weren't starting off with better wages and lower costs. You were.

And then there is social security. The average boomer paid in just about 35000 dollars (total) into Social security. they can expect to receive a benefit if they retire at 67 and live only to 77 of 380,000 dollars. A 1000% increase in their investment. Millennials now make up 35% of the work force. They pay the majority of the social security dollars and FICA taxes... Oh and by the way.. Social security now eats up 30% of the budget and we are now paying 8% of our entire federal budget paying on interest for loans we have to take to pay for social security.


So excuse me if I don't kiss your asses while I pay for your retirement.

DAMN MILLENIALTARDS GET OFF MY LAWN