Threat that's Profound, 6 months of supplies

[majormadmax]

I plan to go to the drive thru at Taco Bell and hoarding up on as much food as the minivan will hold. That shit never spoils with so many chemicals in it, and once you eat it, no one will want to come anywhere close to you!

 

[BillFairbanks]

If the power went off. Farms and Ranches would all of a sudden need a lot of labor. I’d probably do like my ancestors did after the Civil War and find a farmer willing to trade labor for food and a place to live.

I’m sure the major cities will be chaos, but the more rural areas would have an easier time returning to a non electric economy.

I think clean water would be the first issue that would need to be addressed.


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[V-Tach]

The more rural areas will be filled with urban raiders looking for food/resources.....they won't stay in the cities where there is no food......

if there is no way to pump fuel....food and resources will not be moving in quantities needed to keep folks civilized.....and they would become uncivilized in short order....

jmho...

 

[FireInTheWire]

Coors light??? I could sworn you meant beer.

Everybody needs water to drink.....

 

[BillFairbanks]

The more rural areas will be filled with urban raiders looking for food/resources.....they won't stay in the cities where there is no food......

if there is no way to pump fuel....food and resources will not be moving in quantities needed to keep folks civilized.....and they would become uncivilized in short order....

jmho...

Of course. However, our country has gone through catastrophic situations like this before. The Civil War and The Great Depression for example.

Texas during Reconstruction was a very violent place.

My gg-Grandfather lost everything, moved out of Dallas County and became a tenant farmer. His family survived and thrived.

His brother in law became a violent criminal who continued to fight the Yankees and raided East Texas and Arkansas. He was dead in 4 years.


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[FireInTheWire]

I'm going to fireinthewire's house.

I was wondering if that topic was going to come up.

Anyone is welcomed to bring guns, ammo and help hold the fort down. You OK with hossenfeffer and venison for dinner?

Come'on yippee ki-yay!

 

[FireInTheWire]

If the power went off. Farms and Ranches would all of a sudden need a lot of labor. I’d probably do like my ancestors did after the Civil War and find a farmer willing to trade labor for food and a place to live.

I’m sure the major cities will be chaos, but the more rural areas would have an easier time returning to a non electric economy.

I think clean water would be the first issue that would need to be addressed.


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Yes sir.

 

[FireInTheWire]

You are making a wrong headed assumption my well meaning friend.
While in part you are right, a box of 22s will shoot lots of game and feed mouths... providing that there is game in the first place. When a wide spread SHTF or TEOTWAWKI event happens and every swinging pecker head from every town big or small with a rifle hits the woods to go after those squirrels, rabbits, deer, ...whatever, it won’t take long before there isn’t anything.
My dad told me what it was like right after the Great Depression, when people poached game animals for food. He said that there wasn’t much to be had.
Look at the records, in the early 1900s there were basically no white tails left. If it weren’t for increased hunting restrictions and conservation work, the heard wouldn’t have come back.
So, don’t bet your families lives on a box of 22 and a rifle for food when the BIG one hits. You’d better have some sort back up plan.

Further more, unless you have lots of privately owned land, where is the average person going to get their game in a SHTF situation?
If you go trodding off across some ranchers place with a rifle, you might get your head blown off by the rancher who is also aware of the SHTF situation and is determined to protect his land and resources against poachers....

This^^^

 

[Dad_Roman]

I think clean water would be the first issue that would need to be addressed.

Everybody needs water to drink.....

I was wondering if that topic was going to come up.

Anyone is welcomed to bring guns, ammo and help hold the fort down. You OK with hossenfeffer and venison for dinner?

Come'on yippee ki-yay!

Im in. Lessee...Id be bringin, me, another lineman, a trained killer, and an extraordinary cook.

But.....I make water. Thats what I do for a living. I also know where there is an endless supply in your AO (no matter who you are) and I know how to get it. Hint....gonna really need that 3-500ft of paracord

 

[ZX9RCAM]

AO?

 

[FireInTheWire]

Im in. Lessee...Id be bringin, me, another lineman, a trained killer, and an extraordinary cook.

But.....I make water. Thats what I do for a living. I also know where there is an endless supply in your AO (no matter who you are) and I know how to get it. Hint....gonna really need that 3-500ft of paracord

We will have power. I promise you that.

 

[FireInTheWire]

You know... all this made me think about the children. Sure it's easy to think about mowing down idiots running a muck. But the thought of all the kids that'll be staving is rough. I don't like this thread anymore.

 

[grasshopperglock]

Tractor Supply has some water tanks I need to acquire.

Here's one.

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/water-storage-tank-305-gal


A problem I can see having it is being able to hide it or camouflage it. I've seen it in person. It's not that huge but it's still big. 50" tall, 46" diameter.

305 gallons is hopefully enough to last between rains and other ways of getting water.

Anybody with any brains at all. Will be able to recognise a water tank. I can't really bury it either. To dig a hole big enough by hand and shovel will be a major expedition. Water will have to pumped up and out.

I got that covered. I have a manual bilge pump. One of these,

https://www.amazon.com/Seaflo-720GP...xed+handle&dpPl=1&dpID=31MvScJRhlL&ref=plSrch

It will move some water. Pretty powerful. Other then that, the other option is the tank would need to elevated a couple feet for water pressure to the draining or being able to siphon it out.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Tractor Supply has some water tanks I need to acquire.
A problem I can see having it is being able to hide it or camouflage it. I've seen it in person. It's not that huge but it's still big. 50" tall, 46" diameter.

305 gallons is hopefully enough to last between rains and other ways of getting water.

Anybody with any brains at all. Will be able to recognise a water tank. I can't really bury it either. To dig a hole big enough by hand and shovel will be a major expedition. Water will have to pumped up and out.

I got that covered. I have a manual bilge pump. One of these,

https://www.amazon.com/Seaflo-720GP...xed+handle&dpPl=1&dpID=31MvScJRhlL&ref=plSrch

It will move some water. Pretty powerful. Other then that, the other option is the tank would need to elevated a couple feet for water pressure to the draining or being able to siphon it out.

One of the comments at the link mentioned it being in a storage shed.

ETA:
How long will the water remain potable?

 

[majormadmax]

AO?

Area of Operations.

 

[grasshopperglock]

One of the comments at the link mentioned it being in a storage shed.

Good Idea. I didn't see that.

Hmmm. A cheapy lawnmower shed might have the room to hide the tank. I was thinking things like disguising it as a compost pit or a kitchen grease/ used automotive oil dump.

It'll have to have security measures of some sort. That's for sure.

 

[SQLGeek]

Back in the summer of 2001, the book One Second After was released.

I've read it as well. It's sobering. The fate of his daughter hits very close to home.

Honestly, living in the suburbs, it's one of the things that convinced me anything beyond disaster prep to sustain for a few weeks is fruitless for me. Well that and the book The Road by Cormac McCarthy. The video game The Last of Us actually ties into that pretty well too.

 

[grasshopperglock]

Being next to a military base. I don't know if that'll help or hurt. If people on the base start spassing out because of low fuel, food, and no electricity.

What will they start doing? Confiscate a tank? Armor vehicles? Walking off will artillery shells?

 

[1911'S 4 Me]

Pasteurized milk last for several years. No refrigeration.

 

[grasshopperglock]

Pasteurized milk last for several years. No refrigeration.

Powdered milk will last months. Another item to the list. (I don't mind powdered milk)