Open Carry of Long Guns.

[MR Redneck]

Is there a law against open carrying a "L.A.W."??? Perhaps I should just go for a casual walk around my hood with that strapped to my back... the whole scenario seems as if to incite concern and for no other reason... so just because you might be able to do so, is it really necessary?

I mean, I mow the yard strapped with a Cerakoted Kimber cocked, locked, and ready to rock... but mainly it is in case of a dog attack... but I hardly feel the need to run around the block with my AR loaded up for war...

I roam all over the place with long guns" some not very long", and never once have I done it to incite anyone.
Do you really think a kimber is the only damn thing that'll kill a dog?
Here's one for ya! I also mow my grass. The green cart I pull behind my mower has a AR15 laying in it while im picking up trash form the side of the road and mowing it. Everytime you'll see that. Do I ask anyone for permission, NO! Did I ask people to throw their damn trash out on the road, NO!
I think most people carry guns simply for " just in case".. Most of us are happy that we havent had to use them for that reason to. I carry my guns for my own benefit, not yours! If the site of what im doing " offends" you, then go some where else because what I do is Legal! OH Yea, you'll also see me open carrying at my place all the time too. From the middle of the road, and all over my property! Dont like it, then find somethin else to look at!

 

[KAK]

So could I tell a cop that was detaining me for long gun carry that it is legal and if there are no further questions I would like to be on my way??

 

[MR Redneck]

Well it would seem there would be no use in doing this except to taunt people and "exercising" the right just to do it..

I can think of one very important reason! Its called self defense! If that "taunts" you, then go hug a tree!

 

[Texan2]

So could I tell a cop that was detaining me for long gun carry that it is legal and if there are no further questions I would like to be on my way??

ummmm...no.
IF you were stopped, let him do his thing and he will probably let you go on his own. Once he stops you he sets the timeframe for the most part, not you.

 

[KAK]

ummmm...no.
IF you were stopped, let him do his thing and he will probably let you go on his own. Once he stops you he sets the timeframe for the most part, not you.

Oh, that sucks.

I can think of one very important reason! Its called self defense! If that "taunts" you, then go hug a tree!

Haha, He is not a very good advocate for gun rights is he? The rifle helps you fight from a less risky distance. The STG in particular is a very lightweight easy to maneuver rifle. It would be every bit as comfortable to carry around in my neighborhood as my light bearing sig with 2 spare mags. I personally hope no one ever sees me. The point is self defense not intimidating citizens. This is typiaclly 11:00 at night in a neighborhood that someone gets robbed in 4 times a week.

 

[Wolfwood]

so in effect, all carry of long arms is unregulated, - for the record - you could sling it, and go for a walk, or sling it throw on an overcoat and go for a walk, whatever. this was one thing that had me curious. as the current prevailing mindset of the public seems to make it less plausible to carry an M4 in a 3 point sling, or a 12 gauge slung african style (especially *gasp* a black one!) and would seem to me to cause the undue hassle of having a chat with an LEO, which is no big deal, but could be a prblem if i was on ym way to work, as i really hate being late.

but something like a small carbine, like the sub2000 keltec or an su-16 that folds up nice and small, dropped in a bag or something like that could really do the trick for me, as it gets nerve racking walking several miles of country road at night unarmed.

more than a few times ive come across hogs on the move, thankfully they didnt mind meeting me... but it sure worries me everytime it happens.


and as for the gentlemen who thinks this is stupid,
i support your right to have that opinion.

it is a god given right every human has.

the right to be wrong.

peace love and HV Pb

 

[M. Sage]

Is there a law against open carrying a "L.A.W."??? Perhaps I should just go for a casual walk around my hood with that strapped to my back... the whole scenario seems as if to incite concern and for no other reason... so just because you might be able to do so, is it really necessary?

I mean, I mow the yard strapped with a Cerakoted Kimber cocked, locked, and ready to rock... but mainly it is in case of a dog attack... but I hardly feel the need to run around the block with my AR loaded up for war...

What does "need" have to do with exercising one's rights? If it's my right to do something, I can do it at will.

Need has nothing to do with exercising a right. Do you need to vote, go to church, express your opinion freely, keep your personal effects secure from random search by the police (after all, if you've got nothing illegal you've got nothing to hide....). See my point? It's no different with the RKBA. Will people react badly? Yes, but that's on them as far as I'm concerned. We should try to minimize those reactions as ambassadors of 2A goodwill, but some folks are just going to hate no matter what. I've got a very short and rude way to deal with that attitude: **** 'em.

so in effect, all carry of long arms is unregulated, - for the record - you could sling it, and go for a walk, or sling it throw on an overcoat and go for a walk, whatever. this was one thing that had me curious. as the current prevailing mindset of the public seems to make it less plausible to carry an M4 in a 3 point sling, or a 12 gauge slung african style (especially *gasp* a black one!) and would seem to me to cause the undue hassle of having a chat with an LEO, which is no big deal, but could be a prblem if i was on ym way to work, as i really hate being late.

but something like a small carbine, like the sub2000 keltec or an su-16 that folds up nice and small, dropped in a bag or something like that could really do the trick for me, as it gets nerve racking walking several miles of country road at night unarmed.

more than a few times ive come across hogs on the move, thankfully they didnt mind meeting me... but it sure worries me everytime it happens.


and as for the gentlemen who thinks this is stupid,
i support your right to have that opinion.

it is a god given right every human has.

the right to be wrong.

peace love and HV Pb

Dude, if you want to get into folding or short rifles and disguising containers, I suggest you hit places like the local sporting goods store with a tape measure and some imagination. This applies to you, too KAK; the STG with 16" barrel isn't much longer than a folded AK and can fit in some very uninteresting containers.

 

[KAK]

How about a nice and wide soft leather briefcase? I really want to discreetly carry a rifle at night.

I am a huge advocate of carrying the most firepower you can get. In the case of having a hi capacity rifle at your fingertips I am extremely interested.

 

[CabbitOne]

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[Bithabus]

Thats exactly what will happen. Depends on where you are I guess.
In texas long guns have no restriction. I really like this law except for the Alarm part. That one little word is how Law enforcement will screw you. The law shoud be defind as " criminal behavior" instead of " Alarm"!
When your doing this, your pretty much at the discretion of the kind of people who represent the law. Hell, I have handguns, shotguns, and all kinds of stuff around the Law's in my area. Only once did it become a issue, but those two worms were just natzi cops and they dont matter to me anyhow.

You must have intent to cause alarm and the Peace Officer needs PC of your intent in order to arrest you. I'd probably be detained in Austin but I don't think I would be arrested. If I felt a need to carry a long gun I would do so, but the potential hassle prevents me from doing so just for fun.

 

[SIG_Fiend]

"Inciting Panic", or whatever the legal term and specific PC are, is the gray area. Nowadays it seems like any public exercise of people's civil rights that may be unpopular, get the wrong officer(s) and while eventually charges may be dropped, you probably won't beat the ride and inconvenience of being arrested. If anyone honestly thinks this is not true, thinks that all officers will understand, no one will be arrested, and it won't be a big deal, then how about 100 of us go take a stroll around downtown Austin and see what happens? It may not be illegal, but there are certainly "legal" places where that doesn't necessarily mean someone (civilian or LEO) won't create a world of trouble for you. This is the end result of the topic of guns being made an irrational subject to be pushed in the back corner never to be discussed, and to be looked down upon by the public in general (or at least the media, politics, etc which influence the public mind). This should be a popular subject, people should be used to seeing firearms and think nothing of it, people should be used to public carry of firearms and think nothing of it. What I'm saying is, maybe we should exercise our rights a bit more, and maybe eventually people will be used to it again, and one day it will be a non-issue?

 

[Bithabus]

how about 100 of us go take a stroll around downtown Austin and see what happens?

I'm in. Many people don't realize they have this right.

 

[RetArmySgt]

We need to set up some kind of state wide carry day and publicize it before hand to get everyone to carry a long gun.

 

[M. Sage]

I'm in. Many people don't realize they have this right.

Actually does sound like a great idea. With that size group, you'll get huge attention, but not much action against you. Bring as many cameras (video) as guns and some voice recorders.

 

[Braveheart]

This is how I look at it, if you have doubts then it isn't a good idea. I like the privilege of being able to carry a long gun without any repercussions, but in this day and age people would more then likely panic and it is more hassle then it is worth. All it takes is one person and it will go down hill from there, I can see doing this for an organized event which the purpose was to inform people what they can and can't do when carrying or concealing a weapon or even a gun show.

 

[M. Sage]

This is how I look at it, if you have doubts then it isn't a good idea. I like the privilege of being able to carry a long gun without any repercussions, but in this day and age people would more then likely panic and it is more hassle then it is worth. All it takes is one person and it will go down hill from there, I can see doing this for an organized event which the purpose was to inform people what they can and can't do when carrying or concealing a weapon or even a gun show.

The what?

 

[kingofwylietx]

The what?

Oh! I know!! Pick me, pick me! it's the RIGHT to be able.........

Also, if anyone wants to get 100 people with long guns walking through downtown Austin, you should probably look into whether you'll need some type of permit for such a group. Individually, you have the right to walk around with a long rifle, but when a group gathers...I think it's called a demonstration. I'm not sure. You'd definitely get on the news that night, especially if you tipped off the news stations that you were going to do it. No question about that. If done right, it could be a positive story. With one or two bad apples.....it could be a mess.

 

[Stumpy]

I'm in. Many people don't realize they have this right.

me too! but i cant participate till Jan 11th. till then, ill still be 17. but dont wait on me.

 

[MR Redneck]

I'm in. Many people don't realize they have this right.

Im in!!

 

[Bithabus]

Actually does sound like a great idea. With that size group, you'll get huge attention, but not much action against you. Bring as many cameras (video) as guns and some voice recorders.

Exactly. One man with a rifle might be harassed but not a large group. The media might also be interested. If someone asks we can say the point is to educate Texans about their rights, and to emphasize the stupidity of laws which prohibit the open carry of handguns while (more destructive) long guns have been carried openly, legally and without "blood in the streets", for hundreds of years.