How do I know he was an asshole? I saw him being one on live TV! His actions weren't "reasonable" as per texascop2's explanation, and if I sat on the jury I would convict him of assault and battery on the cameraman.
He was not being threatened, and it was only a matter of a second or two between when he told them to leave until he physically assaulted them. That is not "reasonable;" it's excessive and for that I know he's an asshole. I understand his irritation, but his actions were uncalled for!
It's similar to the guy who ran down the street shooting at a van because of some stolen shingles. Seriously, I understand the right to defend your property; but do you really consider this a reasonable response? Someone gets lost and accidentally drives down a dirt road that's on private property, is it reasonable to yell and start attacking them, or does it make more sense to inform them of the situation and give them time to leave? How long is reasonable? A minute? Two? Can you shoot them after three?
By the way, no one could hear the female news anchor's comments other than Marvin through his earpiece, it had nothing to do with the actual incident.
you have a point TC. cause im rude,direct and an a$$hole everyday!!
How do I know he was an asshole? I saw him being one on live TV! His actions weren't "reasonable" as per texascop2's explanation, and if I sat on the jury I would convict him of assault and battery on the cameraman.
He was not being threatened, and it was only a matter of a second or two between when he told them to leave until he physically assaulted them. That is not "reasonable;" it's excessive and for that I know he's an asshole. I understand his irritation, but his actions were uncalled for!
It's similar to the guy who ran down the street shooting at a van because of some stolen shingles. Seriously, I understand the right to defend your property; but do you really consider this a reasonable response? Someone gets lost and accidentally drives down a dirt road that's on private property, is it reasonable to yell and start attacking them, or does it make more sense to inform them of the situation and give them time to leave? How long is reasonable? A minute? Two? Can you shoot them after three?
By the way, no one could hear the female news anchor's comments other than Marvin through his earpiece, it had nothing to do with the actual incident.
reasonably being the key word. You cant legally beat the shit out of someone for not leaving fast enough. Keep reading through chapter 9 and it gets more detailed. Dont get me worng, we all have lots of rights when on our property. The news crew was out of line just inviting themselves to his place, but causing serious bodily injury or death becasue they arent leaving your yard fast enough wont fly.
There's also a law against assault, and I don't see any exceptions for being on private property.
I think I have to agree with majormadmax on this one. I think a little more time to retreat would be reasonable.
Sure seems to be a lot of bada$$'s around.
John
agreed. my point was directed more to the "if they are trespassing, shoot them" crowdOne other thing that's being overlooked here is that they were using his property, without permission let alone compensation, in a commercial venture. They were making money standing there.
No, but when they, like this news crew, simply stand there in the face of being told to leave and try to act like they haven't been told to leave, that's when the escalation comes into play according to the law.
I posted it. The exception is when you have a trespasser who digs in his heels at being ejected. If you tell them to leave and they don't, you can make them leave through a reasonable use of force. I'd stick to an LE style force continuum personally. Be kind of hard to call that unreasonable.
agreed. my point was directed more to the "if they are trespassing, shoot them" crowd
agreed. my point was directed more to the "if they are trespassing, shoot them" crowd
"Tell him that's assault, don't touch you" hahaha
That is Criminal trespass. Removing them from his property after being told to leave is NOT assault.
Idiot Newsie.
There's also a law against assault, and I don't see any exceptions for being on private property.
so you would have thrown the F-bomb on live T.V. and proceeded to grab/shut down their camera?? just curious..or would you have given them a few more minutes to pack up and leave?? cause no one really knows what happened in this video other than a so-called property owner walking up and asking them to leave and seemed to grab/shut down their camera all in about 60 seconds.I would have acted in the same manner when they decide to just do whatever they want.
That is Criminal trespass. Removing them from his property after being told to leave is NOT assault.
Idiot Newsie.
so you would have thrown the F-bomb on live T.V. and proceeded to grab/shut down their camera?? just curious..or would you have given them a few more minutes to pack up and leave?? cause no one really knows what happened in this video other than a so-called property owner walking up and asking them to leave and seemed to grab/shut down their camera all in about 60 seconds.
just for the record i would have proceeded the same way. and i really didnt think you'd get all commando on a news crew!! unless of course they were stealing your cows or something...From what I saw ... he walks up ... tells them to leave, and they then proceed to blow it off and continue, at that point I would have probably told them in rather colorful language and in a loud tone to leave or I was calling the police to remove them.
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