CC just passed Senate. Almost law now!

[easy rider]

Oldest looking 25 year old I've met.

 

[Renegade]

Unfortunately we could have had a better law passed in previous sessions as we had better majorities back then. We had to give up a lot we probably would not have to get this passed.

 

[easy rider]

We had been giving up inches for so long, it actually feels good to take a step forward. Now if we can get a law stating that we will follow the constitution as written, then we will get all those inches back.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Folks, I’m trying to head off a shîtstorm at the pass. There is a lot of work to be done next session, both for LTC and Permitless Carry.

Until then, we’re gonna have a bunch of Texans and some others who’re gonna stop by to see what they can learn before they carry without a permit. We, the good folks of this place, owe it to them to focus on the positives for them, educate them factually, and set the stage for a successful implementation.

The most dangerous time for this new law will be from 1 Sep 21 until elections the next year. Let’s set the stage that all the hard work that’s been done won’t be for naught and will enable fixes in the next session. The alternative ain’t good to think about.

 

[Rhino]

Folks, I’m trying to head off a shîtstorm at the pass. There is a lot of work to be done next session, both for LTC and Permitless Carry.

Until then, we’re gonna have a bunch of Texans and some others who’re gonna stop by to see what they can learn before they carry without a permit. We, the good folks of this place, owe it to them to focus on the positives for them, educate them factually, and set the stage for a successful implementation.

The most dangerous time for this new law will be from 1 Sep 21 until elections the next year. Let’s set the stage that all the hard work that’s been done won’t be for naught and will enable fixes in the next session. The alternative ain’t goos to think about.

This is true. Also acclimation to the new carry would be helped along if a ton of LTC holders stuck their necks out a bit and open carried as much as reasonably possible between now and Sept. 1st to get people used to it.

 

[Renegade]

This is true. Also acclimation to the new carry would be helped along if a ton of LTC holders stuck their necks out a bit and open carried as much as reasonably possible between now and Sept. 1st to get people used to it.

No thanks. As an LTC I have lost enough under this law. Texas is never going to accept OC. Permitless folks can do their own acclimation and find out why so few OC in Texas. They may also want to start reading the bill as thoroughly as most of us LTC folks have and find all the gotchas, cause saying I was told I was “GTG” on the internet’s ain’t gonna cut it with officer friendly.

 

[easy rider]

No thanks. As an LTC I have lost enough under this law. Texas is never going to accept OC. Permitless folks can do their own acclimation and find out why so few OC in Texas. They may also want to start reading the bill as thoroughly as most of us LTC folks have and find all the gotchas, cause saying I was told I was “GTG” on the internet’s ain’t gonna cut it with officer friendly.

Although I like what you wrote, but other than when I wear a jacket I OC where I can and haven't gotten one unacceptable look, let alone words to the effect.

 

[TexasRedneck]

You must be under 26 and missed CHL passage.

CHL allowed more people to carry, in more places not just in Texas but across the US, while bypassing NICS and Fed School Zones, while not taking away any existing carry rights.

This law does NONE of those things.

The CHL bill as passed was even MORE of a shit-show than this one. But go ahead and complain.

 

[Vaquero]

Although I like what you wrote, but other than when I wear a jacket I OC where I can and haven't gotten one unacceptable look, let alone words to the effect.

Texas is a large and diverse state. More of a multi divided region.
Some of us can do things that others, elsewhere can't.
It's just that way.

 

[ScottDLS]

No thanks. As an LTC I have lost enough under this law. Texas is never going to accept OC. Permitless folks can do their own acclimation and find out why so few OC in Texas. They may also want to start reading the bill as thoroughly as most of us LTC folks have and find all the gotchas, cause saying I was told I was “GTG” on the internet’s ain’t gonna cut it with officer friendly.

What has LTC lost under this law?

Can you provide examples of some of the "gotchas"?

 

[easy rider]

Texas is a large and diverse state. More of a multi divided region.
Some of us can do things that others, elsewhere can't.
It's just that way.

True, but when things become normal they inevitably become acceptable. So it sounds like we need more people OCing.

 

[vmax]

Can't wait for news stories about Texas passing CC and how it is the "wild west "
When truth is we were several years late to this game and we got our CC law from Wish.com

 

[Renegade]

What has LTC lost under this law?

Can you provide examples of some of the "gotchas"?

We have been documenting it over the last 100 pages… but yes I plan to put together a 2-3 page brief of dos and donts when it is finalized

 

[Renegade]

True, but when things become normal they inevitably become acceptable. So it sounds like we need more people OCing.

Cory and his clown circus set OC back in definitely.

 

[Renegade]

One of the things that also concerns (affects) me, as far as keeping my LTC, is I haven't seen what constitutional carry will be on college campuses. Right now it's LTC holders, and even now through the college it's pretty quiet as far as constitutional carry goes.

I have not read it fully, but on another forum someone stated there is no permitless carry on campus allowed

 

[toddnjoyce]

I have not read it fully, but on another forum someone stated there is no permitless carry on campus allowed

I believe that’s correct, but the prohibition for permitless carry is broadly defined as school or educational institution. The language is in Section 23, with the LTC exception for “higher education” os a subsequent sub-section.

 

[Renegade]

In other good news, it looks like this bill will allow National Park possession.

Possession of Firearms in National Park Units
In areas administered by the National Park Service, an individual can possess a firearm if that individual is not otherwise prohibited by law from possessing the firearm and if the possession of the firearm complies with the laws of the state where the park area is located. 54 U.S.C. 104906.

The usual off-limits places still apply though.

 

[Cob]

I will Wait till agust and then talk to a couple of lawyers I know

 

[jrbfishn]

I will Wait till agust and then talk to a couple of lawyers I know

That is not a bad thing to do with any law.

Sent by an idjit coffeeholic from my SM-G892A using Tapatalk

 

[Renegade]

I will Wait till agust and then talk to a couple of lawyers I know

hopefully as a result of the training reqmt, DPS will put out a short FAQ covering legalities.