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  • Glenn B

    Retired & Loving It
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    Sep 5, 2019
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    Texarkana - Across The Border
    From loads of research I did back in 2016 for a trip to Alaska, the best defense against any bear attack is supposedly bear spray but I will admit some real experts debate as do a whole cadre of armchair bear killers. Anyway, I and my son carried it in Alaska. Then again, I also carried a 44 magnum and a Remington 870 and my son had a 1911. We both also carried K-Bar Marine fighting knives (no I do not consider myself a knife fighter but I'll be damned if I do not have what I can carry and maybe use for survival in a tough spot). Sometimes my son carried the 870 and only I had the Ruger Redhawk. The 870 was loaded with alternating slugs and buckshot rounds. Never saw a bear where we were but then the salmon were not running yet as we went in May through early June but had we seen one at any distance instead of already ontop of me, I am quite confident I could have brought the 870, which I carried on a 3 point sling, into play. I have always been quite adept with the 870, carried one on operations for many years when a federal agent as my preferred long arm and our range master once told me he never saw anyone shoot one as swiftly while keeping the shots on target as did I. I just loved to shoot it. Cannot do it so much anymore thanks to Arthur I. Tis but still shoot it now and again. If we ever go to Alaska again, I hope to be able to afford the much higher rates for everything once the salmon are running in around mid June to early or mid July. Then, we'd likely see some bears, Brown or Black, and hopefully will not wind up as dinner.

    Anyway, my point about the OP's trip is, besides bear spray, if you have one you may want to consider carrying a shotgun like an 870. I was assured by several locals in Alaska, including fish & wildlife type officials, an 870 would do the job nicely - much better than my Ruger Redhawk even with the very heavy rounds I had loaded into it. Another choice, if you have one could be a lver action in 45-70 Gov't. We encountered a few locals carrying Marlin rifles in 45-70. Lever action rifles chambered in that caliber seemed to big a big hit up that way at the time although I'd much prefer the 870. One other consideration, if I ever hike in big cat country, I would consider getting a face like mask to wear on the back of my head. A long time ago, I read a couple or few articles that explained how tiger attacks in India were greatly reduced when rural living folks starting doing that there. Tigers apparently prefer to attack their prey from the rear and evidently were confused by the masks. Not fool proof by a long shot but possibly an advantage making it worth looking silly.
    Texas SOT
     

    Krieger

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    Not long ago I was faced with a similar situation and I had a similar question.

    I went to a former Navy SEAL, backwoodsman and firearms expert for advice. Here’s what I’ll share relative to your question.


    1. While a .357 is an excellent round for your situation, it’s recoil in a revolver makes follow up shots quite difficult unless you have a large framed pistol.

    2. One of the best rounds for stopping large game is the 10mm. This cartridge is an EXCELLENT round for larger sized animals such as you might find in the wilderness and due to weapon frame, recoil is typically manageable.

    Unfortunately, you don’t have that listed as one of your choices... but you do have its little brother, the .40 caliber listed.

    The .40 cal and the 10mm are the same caliber round. It’s just that the “.40 cal” cartridge is shorter than a 10mm cartridge and has less powder. A link for your review:
    https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2019/8/7/10mm-vs-40-sw-similarities-differences-and-uses/

    Of the choices that you listed, I think that the .40 cal is an excellent choice.

    -Krieger
    Former: Special Forces (Weapons SGT, Engineer SGT, Medical SGT, Operations SGT); Triple Canopy: Emergency Response Unit Designated Defensive Marksman, Ambassadors Protective Detail - Movement Team, Ambassador’s Protective Detail - Tactical Commander Counter-assault Team.
     

    BuzzinSATX

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    Dec 20, 2013
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    New Braunfels
    Not long ago I was faced with a similar situation and I had a similar question.

    I went to a former Navy SEAL, backwoodsman and firearms expert for advice. Here’s what I’ll share relative to your question.


    1. While a .357 is an excellent round for your situation, it’s recoil in a revolver makes follow up shots quite difficult unless you have a large framed pistol.

    2. One of the best rounds for stopping large game is the 10mm. This cartridge is an EXCELLENT round for larger sized animals such as you might find in the wilderness and due to weapon frame, recoil is typically manageable.

    Unfortunately, you don’t have that listed as one of your choices... but you do have its little brother, the .40 caliber listed.

    The .40 cal and the 10mm are the same caliber round. It’s just that the “.40 cal” cartridge is shorter than a 10mm cartridge and has less powder. A link for your review:
    https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2019/8/7/10mm-vs-40-sw-similarities-differences-and-uses/

    Of the choices that you listed, I think that the .40 cal is an excellent choice.

    -Krieger
    Former: Special Forces (Weapons SGT, Engineer SGT, Medical SGT, Operations SGT); Triple Canopy: Emergency Response Unit Designated Defensive Marksman, Ambassadors Protective Detail - Movement Team, Ambassador’s Protective Detail - Tactical Commander Counter-assault Team.

    Mark Mudgett, founder of “Marksmanship Matters” and whose training company has classes on dangerous animals and firearms, would agree:


    Mr. Mudgett lives in Utah and has said that he carries a Glock .40 with hard cast bullets. If hard cast are not available, heavy FN FMJ would be a second choice. NO JHP’s in the woods if large dangerous game are the concern.
     

    Hoji

    Bowling-Pin Commando
    May 28, 2008
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    Mustang Ridge
    Well, I guess if you are standing near a big bear about to be released who is probably pissed off from having been caged, drove around in a bumpy metal can, and likely hungry and thirsty, you shouldn’t be so freaking close to the door and in view!
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    ZX9RCAM

    Over the Rainbow bridge...
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    Lifetime Member
    May 14, 2008
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    The Woodlands, Tx.
    Not long ago I was faced with a similar situation and I had a similar question.

    I went to a former Navy SEAL, backwoodsman and firearms expert for advice. Here’s what I’ll share relative to your question.


    1. While a .357 is an excellent round for your situation, it’s recoil in a revolver makes follow up shots quite difficult unless you have a large framed pistol.

    2. One of the best rounds for stopping large game is the 10mm. This cartridge is an EXCELLENT round for larger sized animals such as you might find in the wilderness and due to weapon frame, recoil is typically manageable.

    Unfortunately, you don’t have that listed as one of your choices... but you do have its little brother, the .40 caliber listed.

    The .40 cal and the 10mm are the same caliber round. It’s just that the “.40 cal” cartridge is shorter than a 10mm cartridge and has less powder. A link for your review:
    https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2019/8/7/10mm-vs-40-sw-similarities-differences-and-uses/

    Of the choices that you listed, I think that the .40 cal is an excellent choice.

    -Krieger
    Former: Special Forces (Weapons SGT, Engineer SGT, Medical SGT, Operations SGT); Triple Canopy: Emergency Response Unit Designated Defensive Marksman, Ambassadors Protective Detail - Movement Team, Ambassador’s Protective Detail - Tactical Commander Counter-assault Team.

    Welcome to the Forum!
     

    FireInTheWire

    Caprock Crusader
    They never used the gun. It won't help if you don't use it. For experienced hunters they sure made some dumb choices. Eating lunch at the kill and process site where the meat has been hanging over night? In the worst bear country around. I would have set a guard and tended to business and got away from there.

    The other military guys he spoke of did use their weapons with great effectiveness even though they were still hurt/maimed but not dead.

    I would rather have it than not, even if in the end I die. I want to go down trying at least.
    I agree 100%.
     

    LeadChucker

    Active Member
    Feb 4, 2019
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    Dallas TX
    A few years ago I took the family on vacation, booking a cabin high in the mountains near Estes Park, CO. It was August, just in time for the Perseid meteor shower. One of my bucket list items was to lay out on a mountain top, Pink Floyd "Dark SIde of the Moon" on the headphones and watch the magic. This is what I was hoping to experience (not my photo)
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    Unfortunately, on checking into the cabin, the owner informed us that he had been forced to replace the 'bear-proof' trash cans as they had been ripped open the previous night. I was outside alone as the kids were little and the meteors shower was supposed to peak around 3 AM. I damn sure wasn't aiming to win a Darwin Award by wearing headphones in bear country in the dark. I thought if I stayed near the cabin I would be ok, but found myself unable to relax and enjoy the night as every rustle and crack had me scanning the surrounding area. Next time I'll bring along something bigger than a 9mm.
     

    kyletxria1911a1

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    May 22, 2010
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    kyletx
    A few years ago I took the family on vacation, booking a cabin high in the mountains near Estes Park, CO. It was August, just in time for the Perseid meteor shower. One of my bucket list items was to lay out on a mountain top, Pink Floyd "Dark SIde of the Moon" on the headphones and watch the magic. This is what I was hoping to experience (not my photo)
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    Unfortunately, on checking into the cabin, the owner informed us that he had been forced to replace the 'bear-proof' trash cans as they had been ripped open the previous night. I was outside alone as the kids were little and the meteors shower was supposed to peak around 3 AM. I damn sure wasn't aiming to win a Darwin Award by wearing headphones in bear country in the dark. I thought if I stayed near the cabin I would be ok, but found myself unable to relax and enjoy the night as every rustle and crack had me scanning the surrounding area. Next time I'll bring along something bigger than a 9mm.
    I got to see floyd in 80 in redrocks
     
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