Snake Gun

[candcallen]

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Again, thanks all for the comments. As for now it does not look like I am going to end up with my 'snake' of my choice...100% SOLD OUT. I spent most of yesterday trying to locate a weapon, They are just not to be had, not even used.

YES folks 17 Palms Ranch is the "Ole Cowboy"!

Seems some time ago in fact many years ago, someone who had access the backside of the Forum software put a HEX on me. I KNOW this because 1) I am Software Engineer (Retired) and 2) I owned a forum some years ago and I could inject some code that would slow you down to a crawl, I never did it to any of my 2000+ subscribers. What it does is slow you do down to the point that you almost always time out before you log in or post or anything.

Some insight: TO log on it took multiple tries on different browsers (I have 5 that I use) and about 30 min to finally log on. 10 min or more if I don't time out to begin the drill-down process of even reading a post if want to reply even longer. Adding a foto is and multiple try and a LOT of effort to create a foto that can be uploaded to the forum.

Figured that whoever the scumbag was he is gone by now, hopefully!

I know who did it and IIRC he either worked at or was involved with a Gun store that RIPPED me off. Then the owner come on the line talked big about not any problem just call me and I will send you a check. Well, I did call and he said to stop by. I did but he did not cut me a check nor did he give me a credit or anything else. That said KARMA, his gun store I don't even think was in business even a year...I drove past it regularly and his sign was gone only a few months later.

Not totally clear, were you unable to log in as your original self?

 

[17 Palms Ranch]

Not totally clear, were you unable to log in as your original self?

I created a new account, after about 5 years of trying to log on after as many as 10 times and watching everything "timed out". New account works perfect...go back a couple of posts and see that red jeep, took over an hour to get that loaded. My OP #1 I spent most of the afternoon trying to post it.

 

[benenglish]

Figured that whoever the scumbag was he is gone by now, hopefully!

I know who did it and IIRC he either worked at or was involved with a Gun store that RIPPED me off.

Are these two sentences referring to the same person? If we have a member who is involved with a gun store that rips people off I'd like to know the details. I can't speak for the rest of the staff but I imagine they'd feel the same way.

 

[skfullgun]

I don't go out of my way to kill snakes, but I killed a bunch of copperheads, all in my yard, last year. The fact that I lost a wonderful dog to a copperhead didn't leave leave me with much tolerance for them.

I had a nest of them in the yard ( never found it) last summer and used a variety of weapons to dispatch them over several months.

A Ruger Single Six, 22 lr loaded with the crimped "birdshot" works well at up to about 15 feet. The results have not been as promising with the CCI version of the birdshot with the plastic cups in 22 long rifle.

I also dispatched a 4' rattler near the coast last year with a few rounds of the .22 lr bird shot in an NAA 1.5". I was CLOSE and still had to finish him off with a shovel.

The Bond Arms 4" .410 works great, throws a bigger pattern, and is a lot more expensive to shoot.

I loaded my own .38 Special rounds with #9 over a few grains of Unique and it worked well in a snubby S &W to about 15 feet.

Again, I leave snakes alone unless they are poisonous and close enough to the house to cause problems with the pets or the grandkids.

I have plenty of rodents that need to be eaten.

 

[17 Palms Ranch]

Are these two sentences referring to the same person? If we have a member who is involved with a gun store that rips people off I'd like to know the details. I can't speak for the rest of the staff but I imagine they'd feel the same way.

Ben, GOOD TO SEE YA!

It's been at least 5 years since it took place, maybe even more. The gun store only lasted IIRC less than a year and the owner was on here and I think one of his employees. It was at that time my posting all but came to a dead halt.

 

[vmax]

Has OP posted shirtless pics of him loading stumps into his tractor like before?

 

[Glenn B]

None of the native Florida snakes that climb are venomous.

 

[Hoji]

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Allow me to amend that to vertical climbing snakes. I typically do not consider a cottonmouth that horizontally crawls out over an overhanging or leaning tree from the bank a climb.

 

[Glenn B]

Just good to know they do get up in the branches sometimes. Something to keep in mind when out and about in their habitat.

 

[17 Palms Ranch]

I don't go out of my way to kill snakes, but I killed a bunch of copperheads, all in my yard, last year. The fact that I lost a wonderful dog to a copperhead didn't leave leave me with much tolerance for them.

I had a nest of them in the yard ( never found it) last summer and used a variety of weapons to dispatch them over several months.

A Ruger Single Six, 22 lr loaded with the crimped "birdshot" works well at up to about 15 feet. The results have not been as promising with the CCI version of the birdshot with the plastic cups in 22 long rifle.

I also dispatched a 4' rattler near the coast last year with a few rounds of the .22 lr bird shot in an NAA 1.5". I was CLOSE and still had to finish him off with a shovel.

The Bond Arms 4" .410 works great, throws a bigger pattern, and is a lot more expensive to shoot.

I loaded my own .38 Special rounds with #9 over a few grains of Unique and it worked well in a snubby S &W to about 15 feet.

Again, I leave snakes alone unless they are poisonous and close enough to the house to cause problems with the pets or the grandkids.

I have plenty of rodents that need to be eaten.

I had Copperheads on my ranch, but oddly they were not around the house, barn or any of my outbuildings. I did get bit twice LOL, but I know Copperheads quite well and unless you really muck with them they are not aggressive. They are one of the few snakes that can hold back their venom. Yes sadly you lost a dog and I feel for you on that.

 

[leVieux]

Oh, and generally speaking, if you are close enough for snake shot in a pistol to be effective, you are close enough to be bitten in the hand.

Eastern Diamondbacks can grow to 8’ and strike distance is a little over half of that.
Your shovel would be a more effective tool to both block a bite, and dispatch snake if required with regards to decreasing your chance of taking a bite.

I once saw an old photo, ca 1910, of a 13.5' Eastern diamondback killed by a road crew in southern Georgia. A guy in a duck blind in S.C. killed one over 10' a few years back. Here in South Louisiana a farmer I know killed one 9' last year. Those suckers get a lot bigger than the Western ones.

 

[Sasquatch]

I once saw an old photo, ca 1910, of a 13.5' Eastern diamondback killed by a road crew in southern Georgia. A guy in a duck blind in S.C. killed one over 10' a few years back. Here in South Louisiana a farmer I know killed one 9' last year. Those suckers get a lot bigger than the Western ones.

They should've both turned the snakes in for records - the world record eastern diamondback is only 8' (96 inches) long

 

[CodyK]

Eastern’s are really heavy bodied snakes, but 7’ is about max length. There are some hybrids (eastern mixed with canebreak) called “batwings” that for some reason get huge.


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[Glenn B]

I once saw an old photo, ca 1910, of a 13.5' Eastern diamondback killed by a road crew in southern Georgia. A guy in a duck blind in S.C. killed one over 10' a few years back. Here in South Louisiana a farmer I know killed one 9' last year. Those suckers get a lot bigger than the Western ones.

Those suckers get a lot bigger in the imaginations of tall (or should I say long) tale tellers & those seeking fame like anyone claiming they had found a 13' 6" rattler of any species; then again they are often very much bigger than actual size in the minds of those who tend to innocently exaggerate. I was, at one time for decades, an avid snake keeper and am still am an avid herper. As far as I am aware, there are absolutely zero documented records of an Eastern Diamondback Rattlesnake as big as either of the ones you mentioned and not even any verified records that I can find of one hitting 8 feet; although, there are many tall tales and several misleading measurements. A rattler that big would make national news upon verification of its size; the sad thing is so too maybe would one not that big that someone claimed is that big and had photos to prove it!

I recall stories of old about a rattler over a dozen feet long. Upon postmortem examination, it was discovered the vertebrae had been separated apparently by someone stretching the snake after it was dead. While a 13' 6" Eastern Diamondback would be amazing, one over 10 feet long, or even one 9 feet long, would be almost as amazing because if verified it would be the largest one ever found to date by a long shot!

Here are some links to the record size for Eastern Diamondbacks:

Discover the Largest Rattlesnake Ever!

Discover the largest Rattlesnake ever! We've done the research! Jump in to read about which are the ultimate largest Rattlesnake!

a-z-animals.com

www.hoaxorfact.com| 502: Bad gateway

www.hoaxorfact.com

Species Profile: Eastern Diamondback Rattlesnake (Crotalus adamanteus) | SREL Herpetology

srelherp.uga.edu

Crotalus adamanteus (Eastern Diamondback Rattlesnake)

animaldiversity.org

Eastern diamondback rattlesnake

Always free of charge, the Smithsonian’s National Zoo is one of Washington D.C.’s, and the Smithsonian’s, most popular tourist destinations, with more than 2 million visitors from all over the world each year. The Zoo instills a lifelong commitment to conservation through engaging experiences...

nationalzoo.si.edu

Massive Killer Diamondback Caught in Arkansas | OutdoorHub

Learn from OutdoorHub, how an Sebastian County, Arkansas man, may have killed one of the largest western diamondback rattlesnakes ever seen.

www.outdoorhub.com

Crotalus adamanteus (Eastern Diamondback Rattlesnake)

animaldiversity.org

As you can see, none of them mentioned, at those links, are over 8 feet and even so called experts disagree on precisely how long was the longest on record.

 

[BRD@66]

You don't need no stinkin' gun. Just stomp 'em with your high heels.

 

[leVieux]

Those suckers get a lot bigger in the imaginations of tall (or should I say long) tale tellers & those seeking fame like anyone claiming they had found a 13' 6" rattler of any species; then again they are often very much bigger than actual size in the minds of those who tend to innocently exaggerate. I was, at one time for decades, an avid snake keeper and am still am an avid herper. As far as I am aware, there are absolutely zero documented records of an Eastern Diamondback Rattlesnake as big as either of the ones you mentioned and not even any verified records that I can find of one hitting 8 feet; although, there are many tall tales and several misleading measurements. A rattler that big would make national news upon verification of its size; the sad thing is so too maybe would one not that big that someone claimed is that big and had photos to prove it!

I recall stories of old about a rattler over a dozen feet long. Upon postmortem examination, it was discovered the vertebrae had been separated apparently by someone stretching the snake after it was dead. While a 13' 6" Eastern Diamondback would be amazing, one over 10 feet long, or even one 9 feet long, would be almost as amazing because if verified it would be the largest one ever found to date by a long shot!

Here are some links to the record size for Eastern Diamondbacks:

Discover the Largest Rattlesnake Ever!

Discover the largest Rattlesnake ever! We've done the research! Jump in to read about which are the ultimate largest Rattlesnake!

a-z-animals.com

www.hoaxorfact.com| 502: Bad gateway

www.hoaxorfact.com

Species Profile: Eastern Diamondback Rattlesnake (Crotalus adamanteus) | SREL Herpetology

srelherp.uga.edu

Crotalus adamanteus (Eastern Diamondback Rattlesnake)

animaldiversity.org

Eastern diamondback rattlesnake

Always free of charge, the Smithsonian’s National Zoo is one of Washington D.C.’s, and the Smithsonian’s, most popular tourist destinations, with more than 2 million visitors from all over the world each year. The Zoo instills a lifelong commitment to conservation through engaging experiences...

nationalzoo.si.edu

Massive Killer Diamondback Caught in Arkansas | OutdoorHub

Learn from OutdoorHub, how an Sebastian County, Arkansas man, may have killed one of the largest western diamondback rattlesnakes ever seen.

www.outdoorhub.com

Crotalus adamanteus (Eastern Diamondback Rattlesnake)

animaldiversity.org

As you can see, none of them mentioned, at those links, are over 8 feet and even so called experts disagree on precisely how long was the longest on record.

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Thank you !

Guess I was looking at fakes.

Kinda like "falsies" ? But, with snakes. . . . . .

 

[EZ-E]

I'm gunna go with #5


Hire a guy with a skidsteer mulcher & sit back & drink a beer. I had about 5 acres cleared when we got our place. It was a thick jungle in East TX & the mulcher made quick work, what would have taken years by hand took about a week.

 

[leVieux]

What kind of snake is this ?

OH, wait. . . . looking for my glasses. . . . .

 

[bigtex10mm]

When we are out at the ranch, my wife and I pack these little hand cannons stuffed with the .357/38 CCI Shot Shells. They dispatch the copperheads we run across very effectively.