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[Texan2]

Each side is only going to present evidence that supports their claim.

I have serious questions about how he got from losing sight of him to engaged in a fight with him. I cant think of a self defense cliam in which I didnt back the person claiming self defense, but in this case he would have ALOT of explaining to do to get me to believe that this was self defense.

 

[Texan2]

I would add that the pro Zimmerman folk are just as rabid as the pro Trayvon folk.

 

[shooterfpga]

martin had a hood on, have you never seen american ninja?

 

[stdreb27]

I have no idea what really happened, what I do know, is that the liberal media has blatently lied about George Zimmerman to make him look guilty. All of the new/truthful evidence is pointing to George's side of the story.

this about sums it up for me, from the "special prosecutor's" salacious filings to them not disclosing that Zimmerman saying ok when he was asked not to follow Martin. Everything I've seen used to imply Zimmerman was a racist looking for a fight, has been debunked.

It isn't cut and dry enough to let him walk today, but unless something else pops up, I'd have a hard time believing a non-biases jury is going to convict him.

 

[Charlie]

My only definate "opinion" at this point is both of those guys involved made some really bad decisions.





(Had to "alter" my number two signature line regarding this thread)

 

[Younggun]

Regardless of what the jury finds, I think what people should take from this whole mess is the importance of understanding exactly what you rights are for self defense. Before you get into a situation think about all possible outcames and ways to aviod them. And whatever you do, DON'T DO ANYTHING TO ESCALATE THE SITUATION!

I believe that will be what kills the self defense claim if he is found guilty.

 

[TAZ]

My only definate "opinion" at this point is both of those guys involved made some really bad decisions.





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Exactly. To me it appears that seemingly small bad decisions compounded and created a totally FUBAR situation.

I'd love to think that the evidence that comes from the trial will tell the truth of the matter, but I'm not naive enough to fall for that crap anymore. The trial will show the parts and pieces of the pie that the lawyers and judge want to show. Lots of times that is not the whole picture. Trayvon's life is over; as is Zimmermans.

At this point I'm going with the innocent until proven guilty model and giving Zimmerman the benefit of the doubt until I see some form of fact that shows he acted poorly. To date I have seen no factual evidence that he did anything wrong. Lots of emotional based argument and conjecture is what I'm seeing which to me is not sufficient to put a man behind bars for life. If there is some fact based argument out there that shows Zimmerman acting with the claimed malicious intent then he needs to be put away.

 

[Renegade]

Oh...you DON'T know thats not how it went down? Ahhh.....That's right we only have bits and pieces of info that has been released by a media that can't tell an AK47 from a Flintlock..

No, we also have police reports and eyewitnesses who have come forward. Not all info is from the media.

Thanks, but I will wait for all the evidence to get released, which wont be until AFTER a trial.

Then you will never have an opinion, because all (your emphasis) the evidence, will never be released, and even if it is, it is unlikely you will get to examine it.

 

[Renegade]

I have serious questions about how he got from losing sight of him to engaged in a fight with him.

How many times do we have to rehash this?

According to TM girlfriend he was on the phone with, TM went back to confront GZ. Then according to GZ, TMN slugged him and a satruggle ensued. Then according to eyewitnesses TM was on top beating GZ, and then GZ pulled a gun an shot TM.

 

[Texan2]

No, we also have police reports and eyewitnesses who have come forward. Not all info is from the media.



Then you will never have an opinion, because all (your emphasis) the evidence, will never be released, and even if it is, it is unlikely you will get to examine it.

You have portions of evidence. My point is that both sides present what they want you to see. there are serious questions that havenot been answered.

As to your second point, once the trial is over, all of the prosecution's evidence will be a public record.

I do have an opinion. It is that Zimmerman made bad decisions. Trayvon probably did too. But I have reserved judgement until I have more facts.

 

[txinvestigator]

If you're trying to imply what he did was right, you are wrong.

If you think you have ANY definitive information about this, you are wrong.

 

[Renegade]

As to your second point, once the trial is over, all of the prosecution's evidence will be a public record.

Never happens. A transcript of the testimony perhaps, but the actual evidence will never be publicly available. For example, you will not be allowed to DNA test Trayvon clothes, you will not do ballistic test on GM gun. All of the testimony the prosecutor took and did not use, will not be available. You will not get to cross-examine GZ. There is a lot more to the evidence then what gets shown in court.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

you have portions of evidence. My point is that both sides present what they want you to see. There are serious questions that havenot been answered.

As to your second point, once the trial is over, all of the prosecution's evidence will be a public record.

I do have an opinion. It is that zimmerman made bad decisions. Trayvon surely did. But i have reserved judgement until i have more facts.

fify

 

[Renegade]

I do have an opinion. It is that Zimmerman made bad decisions. Trayvon probably did too. But I have reserved judgement until I have more facts.

People make bad decisions every day, What matters is did either do anything illegal. If you want to reserve judgement fine, drop out of the thread. The rest of us will continue to judge based on the facts we have today.

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

I blame it on Michele Obama. Zimmerman obviously saw the Skittles and shot Trayvon to combat childhood obesity.

Just thought I'd add some more clowns to the circus.

 

[Driller]

Good news Travon was seen robbing the Porter,TX bank yesterday. Zimmerman should be released soon.

 

[Jakashh]

I had worse injuries than Zimmerman's from high school scraps

Good thing he shot him before the injuries got any worse, eh? Or maybe not haha.

 

[BG1960]

New report off Drudge, Martin had injuries to his knuckles. I hope Zimmerman sues everyone, everywhere and wins.

 

[Texan2]

People make bad decisions every day, What matters is did either do anything illegal. If you want to reserve judgement fine, drop out of the thread. The rest of us will continue to judge based on the facts we have today.

1. But most bad decisions dont end up with someone dead. 2. You are correct, what matters is what illegal acts the parties may have committed. 3. If I want to reserve judgement and not jump on Zimmerman bandwagon, I have to drop out of the thread? Wow, I wasn't aware of that forum protocol 4. You are free to make your mind up based on having a portion of the facts, I choose not to.

I think what you are missing is that I hope Zimmerman is found not guilty. I think that a guilty verdict hurts those who wish to protect themselves. But so many jumped right on the not guilty side of the fence with little or no info...I see issues with what both sides did. A jury gets to see ALL the evidence and make an educated decision.

 

[shooterfpga]

1. But most bad decisions dont end up with someone dead. 2. You are correct, what matters is what illegal acts the parties may have committed. 3. If I want to reserve judgement and not jump on Zimmerman bandwagon, I have to drop out of the thread? Wow, I wasn't aware of that forum protocol 4. You are free to make your mind up based on having a portion of the facts, I choose not to.

I think what you are missing is that I hope Zimmerman is found not guilty. I think that a guilty verdict hurts those who wish to protect themselves. But so many jumped right on the not guilty side of the fence with little or no info...I see issues with what both sides did. A jury gets to see ALL the evidence and make an educated decision.

hopefully, otherwise he might be released long after everyone forgot about him and declared innocent after an over zealous prosecuter destroyed or hid evidence.