Electric Vehicles here to stay, for good or bad?
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Just like the tesla sedans.
I climbed some peak in Breckenridge (I was there in June) that was some crazy elevation like that. Can't remember how high, but it was awesome getting to the summit. Got caught in a small storm on the way up, everyone else left and warned me to go too, but I was young and dumb and kept going. Got above the snow line, and by dumb luck there was the remains of some sort of shelter I was able to hide out in until the storm passed. No roof, but enough of the walls to break the wind and sleet/snow. Storm passed pretty quickly and I made the rest of the climb. I must have stood up there for an hour just taking it all in. Oxygen, that is, so I could make the trek back down 
HKShooter65
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Tesla drivers had best engage judgement circuits in their frontal lobes before starting their magnetic machines.
The fastest Corvette Chevy has ever made is the current ZR1 with a 0-60 of 2.8 seconds.
The Tesla S sedan is a good bit faster to 60 and dazzlingly faster off the line (AKA stoplight turning green).
We must consider ourselves blessed that virtually 100% of the Teslas equipped with the ludicrous-mode feature are owned by attorneys and doctors with unquestionably perfect astuteness and common sense.
Right?
HKShooter65
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After a lot of shopping and fantasy I'm realizing......
EVs are alluring and sexy.
Trucks are practical.
I'm going to look at trucks tomorrow after work.
EVs are alluring and sexy.
Trucks are practical.
I'm going to look at trucks tomorrow after work.
Does it really get 80 miles on a full charge?
Why? I don't want you boring normies to like the same cars I dolol true! TheDan will be along shortly to kick your ass. And maybe mine
Not unless regulations change. They need the small cars to offset the Gladiators. They could probably replace the 500 line with the Renegade, tho. It'll be getting their new 1.3L soon. The Renegade is the same car as the 500L and 500X anyways...
This would be the type of electric vehicle I'd want. I don't think a pure EV would ever work for me. I think a pickup with electric traction motors and a generator would be the ideal setup.
The thing that I dislike the most about EV is the thing that make most people fawn over them; gadgets. I'm annoyed with the ipad interfaces and interdependence of systems. Of course this is taking over ICE vehicles as well...
The proprietary nature of the systems is a problem as well. I think Tesla might actually be breaking the law in their attempts to prevent people from working on their own cars. It seems like we are headed for a future where cars are treated like a subscription service and you don't actually own the car you buy.
It's going to be interesting when someone develops an open source, blank-page operating system and software to install on Tesla vehicles. It might be limited in functionality but you know someone is working on it right now. People will try it and some will fail. They'll learn that bricking a phone is one thing but bricking a car is quite another and I doubt Tesla will be helpful to those folks.
And, yeah, in the previous sentence I just treated a car like a disposable electronic gadget.
There's an excellent documentary on the way tractor manufacturers are trying to prevent farmers from working on their own equipment by installing proprietary control software everywhere. What farmers have gone through over the last decade looks like the future for car owners.
For ICE vehicles, the question of electronics necessary for the operation of the vehicle has been fully resolved. There's a good number of software tools available for the popular vehicles to mess with the factory software, despite the OEM's increased protections. Foregoing the factory hardware, there's also a good number of both commercial closed source and fully open source controllers available.
One of the open source platforms I have personally assembled, installed, and run on a ~700rwhp daily driver. At the time the tools weren't available to tune the OEM ECU to control a boosted setup, so in went a MegaSquirt.
The downside is they do not replicate any of the convenience features, communicate with the other onboard modules, interface with OBD standard scan tools (including state emissions computers), etc. Perhaps also the upside, depending on how you look at it.
One of the open source platforms I have personally assembled, installed, and run on a ~700rwhp daily driver. At the time the tools weren't available to tune the OEM ECU to control a boosted setup, so in went a MegaSquirt.
The downside is they do not replicate any of the convenience features, communicate with the other onboard modules, interface with OBD standard scan tools (including state emissions computers), etc. Perhaps also the upside, depending on how you look at it.
WT_Foxtrot
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If gas, include the Tundra. You'll be glad you did.
I'm surprised it's not on sourceforge already.
The problem with Tesla is that they blacklist VINs. If you try to install unauthorized software it'll phone home and tattle. They also won't sell parts to individuals. People that have bought salvage Teslas to fix up have run into all sorts of needless problems.
That's exactly the way EVs feel...
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TESLA IS BANKRUPT, math challenged asshole
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The Right To Repair movement(s) have made some headway in this, but in the John Deere and farmer's case, it seems that Deere, et al, circumvented a real solution by lobbying for their own proposed version, wherein the new regs actually are almost the same as Deere's de facto lock on individuals' ability to repair/deal with their electronic issues.
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