This seems to be a frequent topic of disagreement on this site. Those who say "By golly, a business owner can do whatever he wants with his business!" And those who feel that constitutional rights trump the business owner's whims.
I guess if WM decides to quit selling guns you are going to sue for infringing on your rights???
Given by this country? You might want to re-think that....purchasing a firearm...is a RIGHT given by this country.
I guess if WM decides to quit selling guns you are going to sue for infringing on your rights???
I see you are a new member with 4 posts. Welcome. Please introduce yourself in the introductions forum and tell about yourself and where you are from: https://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/introductions.16/Sir, if a store does not want to sell an item, they can do that. If they decide not to sell an item that is protected by the constitution, they have the right to do that. But if they start selling an item that is protected by the constitution, they cannot discriminate.
Let's talk about the Christian baker in Oregon who decided not to sell an item (this time, it is an item [a cake] that is not protected by the constitution) to a certain "type" of individual. However, they lost their case and had to pay hundred of thousands of dollars. A cake is not protected by the constitution. A person does not have a right to own a cake. But the judge favored the couple who really had no right protected by the constitution to buy a cake.
However, bearing a firearm is a right given by the country. And Walmart and Dicks' practice of discriminating 18-20 year old is against the right that was given by the constitution.
Given by this country? You might want to re-think that.
Pretty sure Ben was referring to it as a God given right.If I am not mistaken, the first 10 amendments are called the Bill of RIGHTS. And Bill of Rights is part of the Constitution of United States.
"Ninth Amendment: The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
Sir, ninth amendment "states that there are other rights that may exist aside from the ones explicitly mentioned, and even though they are not listed, it does not mean they can be violated." (Quoted from https://kids.laws.com/ninth-amendment). So Second Amendment explicitly mentions that we have the RIGHT to bear arm.
Why did I say that it is a right given by this country? Because the founding fathers of our great country put it in the constitution to give us these rights. Other countries like Australia once allowed people to have firearms, but after 1996's massacre, they took it away. Why? Because for Australia bearing arms is not a "right." So they took all the guns away from law abiding citizens. And you do some research and study what this accomplished in Australia. Did mass shooting stop in Australia? Nope. Now the law abiding citizens has no means to protect themselves. This accomplished NOTHING but a waste of money and resources.
If I am not mistaken, the first 10 amendments are called the Bill of RIGHTS. And Bill of Rights is part of the Constitution of United States.
"Ninth Amendment: The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
Sir, ninth amendment "states that there are other rights that may exist aside from the ones explicitly mentioned, and even though they are not listed, it does not mean they can be violated." (Quoted from https://kids.laws.com/ninth-amendment). So Second Amendment explicitly mentions that we have the RIGHT to bear arm.
Why did I say that it is a right given by this country? Because the founding fathers of our great country put it in the constitution to give us these rights. Other countries like Australia once allowed people to have firearms, but after 1996's massacre, they took it away. Why? Because for Australia bearing arms is not a "right." So they took all the guns away from law abiding citizens. And you do some research and study what this accomplished in Australia. Did mass shooting stop in Australia? Nope. Now the law abiding citizens has no means to protect themselves. This accomplished NOTHING but a waste of money and resources.
<sigh>Because the founding fathers of our great country put it in the constitution to give us these rights.
There are those who say "By golly, a person can go wherever and do whatever he wants because "muh rights"" and those who believe a person has the right to choose what happens in or about a product of a persons own blood, sweat, and tears.
See, we can both twist anothers argument in a way that we aren't obligated to actually refute it, instead acting as if it isn't deserving of consideration at all. This method doesn't actually validate or invalidate one argument or the other but takes very little effort and allows the author to sit back with a sigh of content satisfaction in making a strike against the troublesome opinion. And why risk discussing a subject honestly when such a discussion might lead to the undermining of ones own belief, especially when such a belief would lead to an advantagious situation whether truly justified or not?
But of course, there is risk. You never know at which time the same tactic will be turned against you. And then your attempts at reason will be ignored because such archaic ideas are no longer necessary and only serve to harm the collective good of whichever mass as managed to obtain power at the time.
I'd rather we just discuss the merits of both sides honestly, even if in dissagreement and if different conclusions are reached.
You need to organize the march on Washington.Clearly we need to ban cake.
March? If I have to march I'm dropping the whole movement.You need to organize the march on Washington.
Happens when you get older. (Dropped movements)I'm dropping the whole movement.