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  • bdee

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    Not where I live. Answer the question. Where does your "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need" philosophy end?
    Communism and social democracy are not the same things.
     

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    The industry is already fundamentally broken, probably by decisions made by government more than 70 years ago. We are the worst of any developed country. We spend 50% more than everyone else on healthcare. and yet we get far worse results. This is to address the money well spent question. So maybe we need to look at how other countries do things, because we are and have been for decades, failing.

    http://www.oecd.org/unitedstates/Briefing-Note-UNITED-STATES-2014.pdf

    If we are so awful on quality, why is it that so many government officials from the single payer countries always seem to come here for treatment? Major surgeries, cancer, etc?
     

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    Close enough. Now answer the question.
    It ends with treating all citizens equally. If you are going to afford a benefit to one group of people, such as Medicare, you need to do it for all regardless of which demographic they come from. Now if you want to get rid of government healthcare for all including veterans, old people, disabled people, government employees, and children then maybe we can have a conversation. Until then, it is an issue of equal protection.

    Think we should make all public roads, toll roads?

    Shut down all public schools?
     

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    The industry is already fundamentally broken, probably by decisions made by government more than 70 years ago. We are the worst of any developed country. We spend 50% more than everyone else on healthcare. and yet we get far worse results. This is to address the money well spent question. So maybe we need to look at how other countries do things, because we are and have been for decades, failing.

    http://www.oecd.org/unitedstates/Briefing-Note-UNITED-STATES-2014.pdf
    Wasn't that the plot of a Michael Moore movie?

    Where he tried to say Cuba had better medicine than the US?

    The US, especially Houston's Med Center, where diplomats and the world's wealthiest folks come for treatment is worse than Cuba?
     

    scap99

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    It ends with treating all citizens equally. If you are going to afford a benefit to one group of people, such as Medicare, you need to do it for all regardless of which demographic they come from. Now if you want to get rid of government healthcare for all including veterans, old people, disabled people, government employees, and children then maybe we can have a conversation. Until then, it is an issue of equal protection.
    Uh, he's been clear from the beginning that the gov has no business in dealing medicine.
     

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    Can I axe a question?

    I may? Thank you.
    bdee what have you done for your fellow man? What have you given up for the "common good"? When have you given of yourself to serve someone else? Cause to me I believe you make everyone, someone else's problem, while you sit on your hands, and do nothing.

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    bdee

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    Can I axe a question?

    I may? Thank you.
    bdee what have you done for your fellow man? What have you given up for the "common good"? When have you given of yourself to serve someone else? Cause to me I believe you make everyone, someone else's problem, while you sit on your hands, and do nothing.

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    Axe???

    I don't think so.
     

    cbigclarke

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    You are just what I expected...

    You socialist see a problem and say "somebody should do something". To where right minded people say "let's do something"..

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    scap99

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    The French, the Germans, the Dutch seem quite happy with theirs.
    Oh well shit, let's just copy their methods. I mean obviously the EU is so strong we should just join in the fun.

    That's like all of the progressives and leftists that are trying to turn us into Cold War Russia. Because it was such an oasis of love.
     

    bdee

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    You are just what I expected...

    You socialist see a problem and say "somebody should do something". To where right minded people say "let's do something"..

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    Well, I've said my peace, you can have fun from here. I don't need to be attacked for expressing my personal opinion.
     

    Hoji

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    God forbid you express facts.

    They rarely do. And add bdee to your tally of exposed Marxists.

    Did everyone notice that anything he actually answered, his answer was always "More Government"? These people are not your allies.
     
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