ACTION NEEDED: HB1893 Campus Security Act

Discussion in 'Gun Legislation' started by Charles L. Cotton, Apr 9, 2009.

  1. Charles L. Cotton

    Charles L. Cotton Member

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    HB 1893, the Campus Security Act (a/k/a campus-carry) was voted favorably from the House Public Safety Committee on 5-3 vote. Voting "yes" were Chairman Merritt, Vice-chairman Frost and Representatives Driver (Bill Author), King and Lewis. Voting "no" were Representatives Burnam, Mallory-Caraway and Rodriquez. Representative Hubert Vo "walked" on the vote. Please contact those voting "yes" and thank them for their support. House Members.


    Now HB1893 moves to the House Calendars Committee. This committee decides when, and IF, the bill will come to the floor for a vote by the full House of Representatives. Please call, fax and email members of the House Calendars Committee and urge them to set HB 1893 on the House Calendar for a vote! Yeah, I know I usually discourage emails, but not on this issue. Nevertheless, calls and faxes are much more effective.

    Calendars Committee Members.

    Thanks,
    Chas.
     


  2. DCortez

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    Consider it done!
     
  3. Starker

    Starker Active Member

    +1,000,000,000,000 (Hey, if the government can use these numbers, so can I.)

    I have been contacting my representatives about this bill for several months now. I am a faculty member at Texas Tech University. Every day I go to work in a building where I am denied the ability to lawfully protect myself with the most effective tool available to me. This in turn creates an attractive playground for someone who has no regard for the law to accomplish maximum devastation with the least amount of risk. It is an absolutely insane situation.

    Furthermore, why would I, as a parent, want to place my child in this same position. The concept of "Gun Free Zones" is absolutely fatuous.
     
  4. I wonder what is going to happen if this bill passes, there is a shooting on campus and local SWAT or patrol officers arrive. Per all active shooter training the person with a gun in the hostile enviroment is a target, no time to check for CHL so the CHL holder is just collateral damage. Just a thought. :confused:
     
  5. Starker

    Starker Active Member

    Granted, I have no experience as an LEO; however, I imagine that they would respond to the situation in the same way they would in any populated building/area. I do not see that it would make a difference whether or not the building/area is on a college campus.
     
  6. DCortez

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    /agree


    Who wants to walk around wearing a safety helmet, tethered to a safety rail, on sidewalks made of rubber? I don't know the stats on our road safety vs gun safety, but I'm willing to bet our roads are more dangerous and more heavily policed.


    Anyway, people need to let their elected officials know what they think about issues. Time to earn our country back.
     
  7. Training is to "incapacitate" armed persons, the difference is that Johnny CHL holder now becomes a target. They should poll the students and faculty since they will be the ones affected and not listen to a bunch of gun toting wannabes who think they can save the world with their gun. Just a thought.
     
  8. jfrey

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    If I was ever forced to protect myself in a shooting such as we have seen on campuses, and the cops shot me just because I had a gun in my hand when they arrived, there would be a lawsuit the likes of which they have never seen. That would be nothing less than attempted murder or plain murder. I read where an officer at Texas State University reported that he would shoot anyone he found with a gun if a shooting occurred on "his" campus. This guy needs to be fired immediately, no questions! What happened to being innocent until proven guilty. The Nazi cops are getting out of hand.

    We have rights and I intend to exercise mine at every chance. Schools are not sacred places, inspite of what some folks think. They are not now or have ever been safe places, regardless of what the media spewes.
     
  9. technoronin

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    I'm on staff at Texas A&M and I'm certainly in favor of concealed carry. My work as a systems administrator occasionally involves getting dragged out of bed in the middle of the night because a system has crashed.

    I also have an undergraduate who works in the lab I take care of who has a CHL. I'm fine with the idea of him carrying.

    So now y'all have heard from someone else who will be directly affected.
     
  10. Starker

    Starker Active Member

    I am not sure how polling fits into the legislative process. Besides, no one is making someone carry on campus. The legislation merely allows carrying by those that choose to do so. If Johnny CHL were a target of LE on a college campus, would he not also be a target anywhere else? Or are you suggesting that LE respond more aggressively to incidents on college campuses?

    I guess what it comes down to is that I do not understand what makes a college campus any different than any other place when considering whether or not someone should be afforded every opportunity to protect themselves.
     

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