Active Shooter at Robb Elementary in Uvalde

[Axxe55]

I’m pretty sure he and all those other officers looked pretty bad before this little bit of info came out.


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Well, this just removes all doubts of who to blame for what happened. They can just stop making excuses now.

 

[candcallen]

I have no words.


If one of my kids died in that shit show I would be visiting someone for a rather short but frank discussion.

I shouldnt say anymore.

 

[jrbfishn]

From the Board on down, heads need to roll.

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[toddnjoyce]

Need to dead check the kid that killed everybody. Maybe his whole family, too. Just end the DNA line.

 

[kbaxter60]

Oof! As more info comes out, it just gets worse .

NEW: Uvalde Police Officer Who Had Clear Shot to Take Out Ramos Before He Entered Robb Elementary School Asked Supervisor For Permission to Shoot but Got No Answer | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

An armed Uvalde police officer had a clear shot to take out Salvador Ramos before he entered Robb Elementary School and fatally shot 19 children and 2 adults in late May.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[Sasquatch]

Oof! As more info comes out, it just gets worse .

NEW: Uvalde Police Officer Who Had Clear Shot to Take Out Ramos Before He Entered Robb Elementary School Asked Supervisor For Permission to Shoot but Got No Answer | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

An armed Uvalde police officer had a clear shot to take out Salvador Ramos before he entered Robb Elementary School and fatally shot 19 children and 2 adults in late May.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Jesus. I know of cops who have committed suicide for a lot less. A lot less. This guy better be seeing a counselor and often.

 

[Axxe55]

Jesus. I know of cops who have committed suicide for a lot less. A lot less. This guy better be seeing a counselor and often.

I'll bet he regrets not forgetting about asking permission and just shooting the perpetrator!

 

[toddnjoyce]

Curious if this is the same LEO who was earlier reported to have not taken a shot because of a question about his backstop.

My opinion remains unchanged. TPC 9 does not require a mother may I before engaging a threat to a 3rd person. Unqualified LEO.

 

[Axxe55]

Curious if this is the same LEO who was earlier reported to have not taken a shot because of a question about his backstop.

My opinion remains unchanged. TPC 9 does not require a mother may I before engaging a threat to a 3rd person. Unqualified LEO.

Ramos had already demonstrated that he was danger, because he fired at the people standing outside the funeral home across the street a few minutes after getting out of the wrecked truck.

IMO that was ample justification to shoot him on sight.

 

[Sasquatch]

Curious if this is the same LEO who was earlier reported to have not taken a shot because of a question about his backstop.

My opinion remains unchanged. TPC 9 does not require a mother may I before engaging a threat to a 3rd person. Unqualified LEO.

Article mentions that yes, the reason he asked before taking the shot was because he was afraid he'd hit a child if he missed

 

[mongoose]

Curious if this is the same LEO who was earlier reported to have not taken a shot because of a question about his backstop.

My opinion remains unchanged. TPC 9 does not require a mother may I before engaging a threat to a 3rd person. Unqualified LEO.

I think this was an ask for forgiveness not permission moment.

 

[toddnjoyce]

ALERRT available here.

 

[roadkill]

 

[etmo]

So glad we have conflicting accounts, it'll really help bring closure
/sarcasm

 

[oldag]

ALERRT available here.

Interesting. Answers some questions.

The officer did comment that he was concerned that if he missed his shot, the rounds could have penetrated the school and injured students. We also note that current State of Texas standards for patrol rifle qualifications do not require officers to fire their rifles from more than 100 yards away from the target. It is, therefore, possible that the officer had never fired his rifle at a target that was that far away. Ultimately, the decision to use deadly force always lies with the officer who will use the force. If the officer was not confident that he could both hit his target and of his backdrop if he missed, he should not have fired.

Also, there was only two windows in the room, at the ends. A sniper might not have had visibility of the shooter.

We received information from the investigating officer that the lock on room 111 had been reported as damaged multiple times; however, this has not been confirmed through work orders at this time.The shooter just opened the door.

ALERRT teaches that first responders’ main priority in an active shooter situation is to first
Stop the Killing
and then
Stop the Dying
(ALERRT & FBI, 2020, pp. 2-9, 2-15 to 2-16). Inherent in both stopping the killing and dying is the priority of life scale (ALERRT & FBI, 2020, pp. 2-6 & 2-34). At the top of this scale, the first priority is to preserve the lives of victims/potential victims. Second, is the safety of the officers, and last is the suspect. This ordering means that we expect officers to assume risk to save innocent lives. Responding to an active shooter is a dangerous task (Blair & Duron, 2022). There is a chance that officers will be shot, injured, or even killed while responding. This is something that every officer should be acutely aware of when they become a law enforcement officer.

The report details a number of tactics that could have been used and would likely have been successful, albeit at a possible cost to the LEO's well-being.

 

[mongoose]

I don’t know what or who to believe these days. I think everyone is in CYA mode.

 

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[seeker_two]

Hygiene over honor....

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