Biden Seeks to Close "Gun Show Loophole"

[popper]

According to Fed data, 0.03% private sales guns are used in a crime. More 'Shadow Gov' BS. And we have had a Shadow Gov since peanut guy.

 

[davidindallas]

The Department of Justice (“Department”) proposes amending Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (“ATF”) regulations to implement the provisions of the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act (“BSCA”), effective June 25, 2022, that broaden the definition of when a person is considered “engaged in the business” as a dealer in firearms other than a gunsmith or pawnbroker. This proposed rule incorporates the BSCA's definition of “predominantly earn a profit,” creates a stand-alone definition of “terrorism,” and amends the definitions of “principal objective of livelihood and profit” and “engaged in the business” to ensure each conforms with the BSCA's statutory changes and can be relied upon by the public. The proposed rule also clarifies what it means for a person to be “engaged in the business” of dealing in firearms, and to have the intent to “predominantly earn a profit” from the sale or disposition of firearms. In addition, it clarifies the term “dealer,” including how that term applies to auctioneers, and defines the term “responsible person.” These proposed changes would assist persons in understanding when they are required to have a license to deal in firearms. Consistent with the Gun Control Act (“GCA”) and existing regulations, the proposed rule also defines the term “personal collection” to clarify when persons are not “engaged in the business” because they make only occasional sales to enhance a personal collection, or for a hobby, or if the firearms they sell are all or part of a personal collection. This proposed rule further addresses the lawful ways in which former licensees, and responsible persons acting on behalf of such licensees, may liquidate business inventory upon revocation or other termination of their license. Finally, the proposed rule clarifies that a licensee transferring a firearm to another licensee must do so by following the verification and recordkeeping procedures instead of using a Firearms Transaction Record, ATF Form 4473.

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Just as the founders intended.

 

[davidindallas]

Constitutionally acknowledged rights are now considered to be "Loopholes".

A slippery slope for the other ones.

 

[davidindallas]

" the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives will require anyone “engaged in the business” of selling guns at a profit to register as a federally licensed firearms dealer and run background criminal and mental health checks on buyers."

This is the current law/rule.

Does "profit" include selling a firearm later for a few more inflation reduced value Monopoly vouchers ?

 

[Lead Belly]

That's why I used a BOS, they're for everybody's protection

We should set up a section where we could post the BOS's for posterity sake.

 

[Axxe55]

Keep those BOS's............

They're definitely going to help you...................

Go to jail................

exactly and since there isn't any definrf number that a person isntselling guns withou an ffl even one bos could be used against tyou for not having an ffl just curious what exactly is rhis so-calledgun show loophole? i have heard about it but never what it was!

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Not sure this is correct.


The ATF Changes Definition of “Engaged in the Business”

 

[Vaquero]

I've decided to not comment.

 

[Lead Belly]

Horseshit

A person will be considered to be “engaged in the business” as a dealer in firearms, when that person:

1. 1. Resells or offers for resale firearms, and also represents to potential buyers or otherwise demonstrates a willingness and ability to purchase and resell additional firearms (i.e., to be a source of additional firearms for resale)”
   2. Repetitively purchases for the purpose of resale, or repetitively resells or offers for resale, firearms—

(i) Through straw or sham businesses, or individual straw purchasers or sellers; or (ii) That cannot lawfully be purchased, received, or possessed under Federal, State, local, or Tribal law…

1. 1. Repetitively sells or offers for resale firearms

(i) Within 30 days after the person purchased the firearms; or

(ii) Within one year after the person purchased the firearms if they are

(A) New, or like new in their original packaging; or

(B) The same make and model, or variants thereof

1. 1. As a former licensee (or responsible person acting on behalf of the former licensee), resells or offers for resale to a person . . . firearms that were in the business inventory of the former licensee at the time the license was terminated…

and

1. 1. As a former licensee (or responsible person acting on behalf of the former licensee), resells or offers for resale firearms that were transferred to the licensee’s personal collection…”

 

[Southpaw]

Does "profit" include selling a firearm later for a few more inflation reduced value Monopoly vouchers ?

"Profit" will be defined on a case by case basis I'm sure and always after the fact.

 

[jrbfishn]

"Profit" will be defined on a case by case basis I'm sure and always after the fact.

And always in favor of the Government...

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[Lead Belly]

"Profit" will be defined on a case by case basis I'm sure and always after the fact.

They need to keep it grey.

 

[paknheat]

FJB, he’s gayer than a 3 pronged fork wearing pink crocs.


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[majormadmax]

 

[davidindallas]

"Sell" ?
What's this "sell" people talk of ?
All I need is one more and then I can stop.

 

[BlueLacy]

Let's Go Brandon

 

[kbaxter60]

That's why I used a BOS, they're for everybody's protection

"Bill of Sale, no Fed Jail"
Said no TGTer ever.