CHL Almost Outted By My Niece :)

Code3GT

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Went to dinner with my mom, sister and two nieces (11 and 13). As we were walking in, my 11 yo niece backhand swats at me after a funny comment from me. I wasnt looking and she tagged either the corner of the slide or maybe the hammer/beavertail of my 1911
I got the laughing "OW! What was that??" to which I simply replied, "duh, my abs of steel!" and started a new conversation to avoid any further curiosity. And no safety issues were present as the hammer was down, just FYI. Luckily they've grown up around guns enough that she wouldnt have given it a second thought and the problem would've been her next question of "Oh, a 1911, can I see it??" No. :p

Now, had I been able to fully exercise my right and OC'd here in the great state of Texas, that would've never happened since my scary killing tool would've been fully visible and "injury" avoidable.
 

txinvestigator

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Went to dinner with my mom, sister and two nieces (11 and 13). As we were walking in, my 11 yo niece backhand swats at me after a funny comment from me. I wasnt looking and she tagged either the corner of the slide or maybe the hammer/beavertail of my 1911
I got the laughing "OW! What was that??" to which I simply replied, "duh, my abs of steel!" and started a new conversation to avoid any further curiosity. And no safety issues were present as the hammer was down, just FYI. Luckily they've grown up around guns enough that she wouldnt have given it a second thought and the problem would've been her next question of "Oh, a 1911, can I see it??" No. :p
so you carry a club? ;)

A 1911 has a Thumb safety and a Grip safety. A child slapping the side of the gun is not a safety issue, even when carried in the proper condition.

Kudos for re-directing her thought process.
 

Hoji

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so you carry a club? ;)

A 1911 has a Thumb safety and a Grip safety. A child slapping the side of the gun is not a safety issue, even when carried in the proper condition.

Kudos for re-directing her thought process.

Gotta remember where the OP is. In Travis County, God forbid he should get into a jam and have to use the gun, he could be seriously jammed up by carrying it "cocked and locked"

We do not have CHL friendly prosecutors, and they will say the words "cocked and locked " 500 times to a jury. To someone who is not in the gun culture, "cocked and locked " sounds like some kind of Rambo term.

Remember, your lawyer has no say in how the Grand Jury is seated, and most people are not gunnies.

Sad state of affairs I know, but something to consider.
 

JKTex

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A 1911 has a Thumb safety and a Grip safety. A child slapping the side of the gun is not a safety issue, even when carried in the proper condition.

Kudos for re-directing her thought process.
Agreed on both counts.

Gotta remember where the OP is. In Travis County, God forbid he should get into a jam and have to use the gun, he could be seriously jammed up by carrying it "cocked and locked"

We do not have CHL friendly prosecutors, and they will say the words "cocked and locked " 500 times to a jury. To someone who is not in the gun culture, "cocked and locked " sounds like some kind of Rambo term.

Remember, your lawyer has no say in how the Grand Jury is seated, and most people are not gunnies.

Sad state of affairs I know, but something to consider.
If someone wants to carry condition 3 and is confident they can draw/rack and still be effective (and I think you can) that's one thing. If you're a fear monger worried about hypothetical's more that the reason you carry, then leave it at home.

No offense, but that statement started out silly and kept on going.
 

Texas1911

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If someone wants to carry condition 3 and is confident they can draw/rack and still be effective (and I think you can) that's one thing. If you're a fear monger worried about hypothetical's more that the reason you carry, then leave it at home.

No offense, but that statement started out silly and kept on going.
Hypotheticals should be taken into account to some degree. We are lax to terms because we enjoy it, but the soccer mom in the jury is scared to death when she hears "cocked-and-locked" and ".45 caliber semi-automatic". She envisions a belt-fed M60 totting Rambo character that's just itching to bayonet a herd of kids.

Then again, you have to get to the courthouse first.
 

Code3GT

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I normally carry condition 1, wasnt that day for some reason but practice both 1 and 3. And I know there wasnt a safety issue involved with cocked/locked but it IS the internet and people will flame regardless. CYA. Thanks for the kudos!
 

Hoji

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Agreed on both counts.



If someone wants to carry condition 3 and is confident they can draw/rack and still be effective (and I think you can) that's one thing. If you're a fear monger worried about hypothetical's more that the reason you carry, then leave it at home.

No offense, but that statement started out silly and kept on going.

Welcome to the world that is "Travis County". Austin did not get the name "Moscow on the Colorado" by being conservative, or by having good sense.

I live here and interact with the court system on a fairly regular basis.

North Texas is a completely different state. What may be ok there will get you hosed here. Just look at the DA's office. The thing with Tom Delay, you know, going to 4 Grand Jury hearings until he got a true bill.

The DA's office here is famous for this. But hey, carry anyway you want, but if you should be in a shooting, and you carry "cocked and locked", be ready for a prosecutor to use that phrase ad nauseam to 12 people who are not gunnies, and who were not smart enough to get out of jury duty.
 

txinvestigator

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Gotta remember where the OP is. In Travis County, God forbid he should get into a jam and have to use the gun, he could be seriously jammed up by carrying it "cocked and locked"
Bologna. show me ONE incident of the method of carry being an issue.

We do not have CHL friendly prosecutors, and they will say the words "cocked and locked " 500 times to a jury. To someone who is not in the gun culture, "cocked and locked " sounds like some kind of Rambo term.
Show me a transcript.

Its all BS
 

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