OK, but do you get any free range time? I'll sit thru the classes if I can shoot a course or 2. I'll even supply the ammo. I used to love to quialify. The CHL course can be passed without effort by any blind monkey. Come on I wanna shoot with the big boys.
The SAPD program allows you to shoot their Glock 23s, but only three rounds or so. I don't think they open their range to civilians...