Court: 3D printer gun files, national security interest trumps free speech.

[Kar98]

Meh. Really nothing to write home about. Same as gun banners won't be happy until only the one percent can hunt peasants with their $150,000 shotguns, I won't be happy until we go back to before Miller vs US, i.e. the time when the Federal government argued that in order to be protected by the 2nd Amendment, a firearm HAD to be similar to the kind the military uses.
This ... does the opposite, i.e. reinforces the notion that "military" weapons are not for civilians to own.

 

[diesel1959]

It's interesting; however, settlements are usually only effective as between the two parties to the settlement. There has been no gavel in court and no court judgment on this issue. So too, there's no binding precedent. Just something to think about.

 

[Dawico]

It sure sounds like a victory for freedom to me.

 

[OFFascist]

"radical libertarian"

He must be plotting to take over the government, then leave everyone alone.

 

[easy rider]

I'll take any battle won for the freedom of our rights.

 

[benenglish]

Dupe threads merged.

 

[yakdung]

I liked it that SAF stepped in to assist. SAF also did great things during Katria during the NOLA leftist debacle.

 

[Southpaw]

Federal judge denies motion to prevent publishing of 3D-printed gun blueprints

A federal judge in Austin has denied a motion from three gun control groups seeking a temporary restraining order and preliminary injunction to stop a gun rights activist from publishing downloadable blueprints online that can be used to manufacture 3D-printed guns.

The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, Everytown for Gun Safety Action Fund, Inc. and the Giffords Law Center filed a motion for an emergency hearing on Wednesday as a last-minute effort to stop Cody Wilson and his Austin-based nonprofit, Defense Distributed, from publishing the weapon schematics, court documents say.

https://www.statesman.com/news/loca...rinted-gun-blueprints/hYBlRPlNxK0sizIn99I8cM/

 

[Moonpie]

What a load of crap.
Like no-one ever took something in their hands, measured it out, and built a clone?
Please.
National Security? Bwahaha

 

[satx78247]

To All,

I find it highly LIKELY that, based on the precedent set by the SCOTUS in the case reference THE ANARCHIST COOKBOOK (which published the instructions for making/employing explosive/incendiary devices), the publishing of the instructions on the Worldwideweird, in documents & printed mater will be allowed.

yours, satx

 

[Shady]

3d printed, drilled out 80%, shotgun from home depot,3rd world country bumpkins pounding out 1911's with files and rocks.

why they picking on the poor one shot plastic gun lol.

 

[Lunyfringe]

3d printed, drilled out 80%, shotgun from home depot,3rd world country bumpkins pounding out 1911's with files and rocks.

why they picking on the poor one shot plastic gun lol.

Because they're clueless morons who don't know a gun from a hole in the ground.

 

[Southpaw]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/states...tion-to-block-blueprints-for-3d-printed-guns/

Eight states and the District of Columbia sued the Trump administration Monday over its decision to allow a Texas company to publish blueprints for untraceable 3D-printed homemade guns. The lawsuit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Washington by the attorneys general of New York, Washington, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Oregon, Maryland, and the District of Columbia.

 

[satx78247]

To All,

Note that all but one of the 8 States (and DC, of course) are in the DIMocRATS-controlled NE & are infested by LIBS/SOCIALISTS & RADICAL LEFTIST IDIOTS.
(Oregon is similarly infected by the ANTI-FREEDOM morons from Portland & other nitwits,who moved up from CA.)

yours, satx

 

[oldag]

WSJ:


Eight States Sue to Block Release of Plans for 3D-Printed Firearms
Gun-control advocates fear background checks on gun owners could be circumvented

A plastic pistol that was completely made on a 3D-printer at a home in Austin, Texas. Photo: Jay Janner/Austin American-Statesman/Associated Press
43 COMMENTS
By
Zusha Elinson
Updated July 31, 2018 8:23 a.m. ET


Eight states filed suit Monday to block a pro-gun group from distributing files online for making firearms with 3-D printers.

A recent settlement between the group, Defense Distributed, and the State Department that allowed the files to be posted has spurred outcry from gun-control groups and Democratic lawmakers. They say it will allow people to avoid background checks by using 3-D printers to make their own guns at home.

“These downloadable guns are unregistered and very difficult to detect, even with metal detectors, and will be available to anyone regardless of age, mental health or criminal history,” said Bob Ferguson, Washington state’s attorney general who filed the suit on behalf of the other states.


The suit was filed in federal court in Seattle and seeks a temporary restraining order to block the files from being posted online. The suit names the State Department and Defense Distributed as defendants, arguing that the settlement violates states’ ability to regulate guns among other things.

Cody Wilson, who runs Defense Distributed, said the group will fight the suit. For years, Mr. Wilson has sought to make it possible for anyone to make their own gun, telling The Wall Street Journal in 2013 that it “represents the total liberation of access to firearms.”

The State Department tried to block his efforts, contending they violated firearm export laws. However, he won a settlement earlier this summer allowing him to post the files. Shortly after, Mr. Wilson posted a picture on Twitter of a gravestone inscribed with the words, “American Gun Control.”

President Trump said in a tweet Tuesday morning that he was “looking into 3-D Plastic Guns being sold to the public. Already spoke to NRA, doesn’t seem to make much sense!”

A U.S. Department of State representative referred questions on the lawsuit to the Justice Department. A Justice Department spokeswoman declined to comment.

The U.S. State Department had included the files on a list of munitions subject to export controls, barring their distribution. But the department in June reversed its position and allowed the files to be posted, prompting an outcry from gun-control groups and Democratic lawmakers who say the files will enable individuals to avoid background checks by using 3D printers to make guns at home.

Some firearms experts played down the danger of these guns because they said most 3D printers use materials that aren’t strong enough to produce a reliable firearm.



“You can 3D-print a pistol that will fire a few rounds through the barrel—after that it’ll just break,” said Rick Vasquez, a firearms consultant and former Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives official.


Given the limitations of 3D printers, criminals are likely to buy a more reliable gun on the black market or build one from sturdier parts, said Mr. Vasquez.

David Chipman, a retired ATF agent and senior policy adviser at the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, a gun-control group, said that he fears the technology will quickly improve, making 3D-printed guns more lethal.

“We don’t want this horse to leave the barn and then have put it back in,” said Mr. Chipman.

 

[Lunyfringe]

Umm, Mr. Chipman... that horse has not only left the barn, it's not even in the pasture and has been breeding while you were busy wringing your hands and worrying.

Anyone competent enough to run a 3D printer can figure out how to download them from torrent or file sharing sites... They're out, and have been...

 

[oldag]

And what about guns like the 1911, where blueprints have been floating around for many decades?

It is not that hard to go into a machine shop and make a gun.

 

[Southpaw]

And what about guns like the 1911, where blueprints have been floating around for many decades?

It is not that hard to go into a machine shop and make a gun.

Same goes for explosives and other bad ideas. There are far worse "how to" guides on the internet then a gun.
I would think that the existence of that stuff alone would be precedence enough, but I guess not.

 

[Southpaw]

BREAKING: Federal Judge Issues Temporary Restraining Order Blocking Release of 3D Gun Files

In a move that shouldn’t surprise anyone, a federal judge has blocked release of Defense Distributed 3D gun files. A consortium of states had filed suits in various jurisdictions looking for judge to stop the scheduled release.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...ining-order-blocking-release-of-3d-gun-files/

 

[Southpaw]

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