Decision time!

[Sam Colt]

I went to Walgreens and got the Johnson & Johnson version of the vaccine. It's only 1 dose, instead of 2 doses (now maybe 3?), and it's the old fashioned kind of vaccine that does not modify your RNA.

There’s nothing old fashioned about viral vector vaccines. VV has been used in research for a long time, but there are only a half dozen such vaccines in existence - all recent.

 

[CodyK]

Our plant is in the same boat. Extremely short handed. Mandatory OT, 10 hour work days, and we’re still working at least one man short per crew, which means about 7-10 men short per shift. Add to that, the average age of workers there is about 65, which means most are just watching the clock until they can retire in a year or 2. It’s a dying industry, but our shop has more work than we can handle. I’m a few months south of 50, and if I didn’t still have 2 kids on my insurance, it wouldn’t even be a discussion, I would be gone! Rumor is the memo will be out within the next week or so, when it does I will have a discussion with HR, and see if they comprehend logic! If not, guess I’ll have to make my decision.


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[Hoji]

Your body. Your choice! I guess that only works when you want to kill a baby. I regret that you are in this predicament.

“No, the COVID-19 vaccines do not contain any aborted fetal cells. However, fetal cell lines – cells grown in a laboratory based on aborted fetal cells collected generations ago – were used in testing during research and development of the mRNA vaccines, and during production of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.”

You asked, we answered: Do the COVID-19 vaccines contain aborted fetal cells?

Do the COVID-19 vaccines contain aborted fetal cells?

www.nebraskamed.com

Religious exemption.

 

[Texasgordo]

If you’re good enough to let the air brakes release on a trailer and not flat spot tires

Ain't no time for that!

 

[karlac]

I was just given notice by my department head, that a memo is about to be sent out from corporate, mandating the Covid 19 “vaccine”. I asked what would happen if I refused to take it, and I was told I would probably be let go. Guess I have a decision to make!


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As with any medical decision it always boil down to that tired, but unfortunately true phrase: Risk versus Benefit.

Every situation is different. I bit the bullet three weeks ago, and had the second jab at 8:30 this morning (Pfizer, at Kroger)

At my age (78 and retired), and with a younger wife who is not retired and lives 420 miles away from me most of the year; and having my best friend here at the lake (a damned tough jarhead, 2 years younger than me), now only a shadow of the man he was after his bout with the election virus and needing his wife 24/7; I made the decision that if the jabs would just lessen the severity of the virus should I get it, my wife would benefit more than me not doing it.

Tough decision for you, and tough times we live in. Best of luck to you.

 

[SQLGeek]

It's amazing what can be found on the internet these days. Do you know how often I see listings for fake paper plates on Facebook Marketplace?

 

[FireInTheWire]

My company is dangling the carrot.

 

[toddnjoyce]

This will depress the hell out of you. I hate government

I’ve said it in similar threads before, but HIPAA was never the bill of goods you believe you were sold.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Those stipulations from HR is to maybe brand you to the others and coerce you into getting the shot...

Nope, reasonable accommodations for exemption are being negotiated.

What Should Be in a Vaccination Policy?

Vaccination policies vary depending on whether an employer requires vaccines or makes them voluntary. Here is an overview of what to include in the policies.

www.shrm.org

 

[rotor]

When I had asked my doctor about the vaccine, he told me to bring my epi-pen if I decide to get one. That was not very encouraging. I have been thinking about going for a medical exemption based on my allergies.

If that fails, I will file a religious exemption for mandated vaccines, as I am vehemently opposed to the use of aborted baby tissue used in the development of the vaccines.

I would prefer the medical exemption and not make this about the freedom of religion.

Many vaccines have used fetal cells for development as you note. Don’t get bitten by a rabid animal as for sure you are a dead man.

 

[Hoji]

My company is dangling the carrot. View attachment 274859

Did you reply with “ I appreciate the carrot y’all are dangling. I really do. But y’all can dangle deez nutz.
Sincerely,
FireInTheWire”?

 

[FireInTheWire]

Did you reply with “ I appreciate the carrot y’all are dangling. I really do. But y’all can dangle deez nutz.
Sincerely,
FireInTheWire”?

I'll tell ya like I told my co-worker.

F them and F their money.

 

[TheDan]

Shake on it?

Yeah I'm serious. Wish I could help more, but can't really right now.

 

[toddnjoyce]

It's amazing what can be found on the internet these days. Do you know how often I see listings for fake paper plates on Facebook Marketplace?

Yeah. My advice on a fake vax card. The ones you are given are CDC records; falsifying a federal document is a felony punishable by up to 5 years in prison. Also, the “free” shot is being billed to your insurer when you have qualifying insurance, so the information collected when given the shot is being stored and processed somehow, somewhere.

There has already been at least one arrest and numerous seizures related to this topic.

Finally, one can be terminated for cause for submitting false records to an employer, erasing any eligibility for unemployment benefits.

My recommendation is always to seek a reasonable accommodation or exemption or voluntarily leave the company if you have another offer in hand.

 

[SQLGeek]

Who said anything about fake vax cards?

 

[pronstar]

I’m not anti vax, or even against this one, if you have health conditions that could make the virus more dangerous to you. Most of my issue, is 1- I’ve had Covid, and it wasn’t bad at all for me, my body fought it off and I was fine. And 2- I don’t trust all the conflicting info out there. I honestly don’t understand the unbelievable amount of desire by some, to make sure EVERYBODY gets this “vaccine” that doesn’t prevent you from contracting the virus OR spreading it! What’s next? They gonna mandate other health decisions? Flu shot? Which I have NEVER taken, and I honestly don’t remember the last time I got the flu. And that’s another thing. What happened to the flu? Covid came out, and now no ones died from the flu since? I guess Covid is a miracle flu cure! Honestly just pissed right now, and the memo hasn’t officially gone out. Rumor is, they are going to incentivize it, by giving the department with the most people who comply, a big bonus. So they will make whole departments resent the ones who won’t get it!


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Quite a few lawsuits are being reported of those with natural immunity. Some companies have caved, other suits are ongoing.


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[TheDan]

More U.S. companies are considering surcharges for unvaccinated employees

Willis Towers Watson surveyed 961 companies with a combined workforce of over 9.7 million people.

www.marketwatch.com

 

[toddnjoyce]

More U.S. companies are considering surcharges for unvaccinated employees

Willis Towers Watson surveyed 961 companies with a combined workforce of over 9.7 million people.

www.marketwatch.com

Yep. And WTW is big administrator for self-insured companies. Average negotiated cost of a C-19 hospitalization is $23K plus lost work time, $34K for a short term ventilator and $88K for long term vent. Long haulers are racking up $1M+ bills that self-insurers are paying. These costs are on top of all the other ‘regular’ costs and the additive births that have been covered, too.

It will settle out in higher premiums across the board in the coming years or self-insureds go bankrupt.

 

[oldag]

There’s nothing old fashioned about viral vector vaccines. VV has been used in research for a long time, but there are only a half dozen such vaccines in existence - all recent.

I will have to go back and search again. I am certain I found information stating vector vaccines had been in use since the 70's.

 

[oldag]

As someone noted above, OP, make them fire you if it comes down to it. Don't resign.

You might want to get your boss involved. He won't want to lose you.