OK... I ask for example you have of propaganda being promoted by Fox. You provided ZERO examples. I said they are guilty of sensationalism there is a difference between that and propaganda. I would suggest that Fox is not necessarily "... the other side of the coin..." but rather an opposing force used to counteract the damage inflicted by MSM. But sometimes different folks see the same thing differently.I like Fox News and watch them quite a bit, but they are not all about journalism any more than aby of the leftist pushing propaganda of the vast majority of the MSM. They are just the other side of the coin, spreading a different narrative. To think any differently, is naive or delusional.
OK... I ask for example you have of propaganda being promoted by Fox. You provided ZERO examples. I said they are guilty of sensationalism there is a difference between that and propaganda. I would suggest that Fox is not necessarily "... the other side of the coin..." but rather an opposing force used to counteract the damage inflicted by MSM. But sometimes different folks see the same thing differently.
Let me be the first to tell you.... There's a hell of a lot more at stake here than your dignity and honor. If everyone is cheating then no one is cheating - the rules simply changed!A lot of people have spoken that we need to as conservatives to resort to the same tactics as the cheating Democrats have pulled in order to win the elections. What's good for the goose, is good for the gander sort of reasoning.
Winning an election by cheating, is still cheating regardless of whether the the justification is that the other side cheated, and turnabout is fair play. I'm sorry, just because the other side cheated to win, in no way justifies cheating in any way IMO. A person can't stand on the moral higher ground, using the same tactics of the other side if those tactics are wrong, or less than honorable. There will be a price to pay for that at some point in the future and it always ends up biting you in the ass in the long run.
Yes, it has always angered me, and upset me when I have played by the rules, and played fair, to have lost to someone that cheated. But my honor and dignity were much more important than resorting to cheating, just because someone else did cheat.
Axxe55,A lot of people have spoken that we need to as conservatives to resort to the same tactics as the cheating Democrats have pulled in order to win the elections. What's good for the goose, is good for the gander sort of reasoning.
Winning an election by cheating, is still cheating regardless of whether the the justification is that the other side cheated, and turnabout is fair play. I'm sorry, just because the other side cheated to win, in no way justifies cheating in any way IMO. A person can't stand on the moral higher ground, using the same tactics of the other side if those tactics are wrong, or less than honorable. There will be a price to pay for that at some point in the future and it always ends up biting you in the ass in the long run.
Yes, it has always angered me, and upset me when I have played by the rules, and played fair, to have lost to someone that cheated. But my honor and dignity were much more important than resorting to cheating, just because someone else did cheat.
So if New York went for Trump would Hillary be a "Faithless Elector" or a "Bitter Elector"?Real tragedy hearing about all those electors committing suicide right before they voted for Trump.....
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She'd be a Phuckin'bitch... Just like she is nowSo if New York went for Trump would Hillary be a "Faithless Elector" or a "Bitter Elector"?
There is a distinct difference between straight news and opinion shows. First you have to seperate the two.It's been inferred that Fox is some how pumping out propaganda. I suggest they are guilty, at times, of sensationalism. Can you provide an example of propaganda being distributed by Fox?
Let me be the first to tell you.... There's a hell of a lot more at stake here than your dignity and honor. If everyone is cheating then no one is cheating - the rules simply changed!
But in 2016, Vegas had the odds at +270 for Trump, we saw how that ended.I like the Fox odds better than the Vegas odds Trump is at +165... That sucks... Biden is at -185... that too sucks!
Let me be the first to tell you.... There's a hell of a lot more at stake here than your dignity and honor. If everyone is cheating then no one is cheating - the rules simply changed!
Axxe55,
Cheating is one thing but fighting back is another. What has hurt us in the past elections is just laying there and taking it. Trump is the first Republican to fight back. It's also good seeing the Trump Trains and hecklers showing up at the Dem rallies. In cases like that, "What's good for the goose, is indeed good for the gander"!
Amazing we haven't seen any new "bimbo's" coming out against Trump. Seems like that tactic didn't work.
That is exactly true. Even Fox News, the majority are opinion shows, and not straight up news. But, they are upfront and honest, and not trying to deceive people with trying to say that they are straight up journalist.There is a distinct difference between straight news and opinion shows. First you have to seperate the two.
Well damn. No matter how optimistic I get with guessing on this map, Trump comes up with 250 electoral votes. We are going to need MN, MI, and WI to win this. I counted those as democrat leaning. What am I missing?Good interactive electoral map. Choose the states you think Trump will win and it totals the electoral votes for you:
https://www.270towin.com/
Well damn. No matter how optimistic I get with guessing on this map, Trump comes up with 250 electoral votes. We are going to need MN, MI, and WI to win this. I counted those as democrat leaning. What am I missing?
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A few states are definitely going to have to flip from left to right.You may be missing the fact that there is a pretty good chance that Trump gets beat !
You may be missing the fact that there is a pretty good chance that Trump gets beat !