Hard cast lead bullets in semi-auto pistols?

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by sharky47, Jun 19, 2008.

  1. sharky47

    sharky47 Active Member

    May 4, 2008
    Is there anything wrong with this? I have gotten into reloading and have successfully reloaded several batches of .40SW that have cycled flawlessly though my HK USP - but I have been using JHPs. Is there anything detrimental to using the hard cast lead bullets for target use?

  2. phatcyclist

    phatcyclist Active Member

    Feb 22, 2008
    Austin, TX
    I think there are only two real issues with lead bullets. Limits on velocity, (not likely to exceed that in a .40 S&W), and lead fouling. I don't think you will really have any problems, as long as the feeding of the bullet doesn't dent it up to much, it should be alright.
  3. baboon

    baboon Well-Known

    Cast bullets that are lubed can add to a bit of smoke. For the price they are hard to beat. I started reloading Laser Cast & found Missouri Bullets for alot cheaper. I have yet to load up the Missouri's, with the heat on now it could be a while.
  4. sharky47

    sharky47 Active Member

    May 4, 2008
    Thanks for the info - that's kinda what I was thinking. I wanted to use these bullets simply for loading up cheap plinking ammo, sounds like it will work as long as the gun will feed it.

    Baboon - is that a Great Dane in your avatar? I have a rescue dane from Paws of Austin as well as a rescue dobie from Brazos Valley Doberman Rescue - both are great dogs!
  5. LHB1

    LHB1 Active Member

    Mar 4, 2008
    Quote: "Hard cast lead bullets in semi-auto pistols?"

    I've been shooting hard cast lead bullets for 45 years (since 1963) in both revolvers (Ruger, S&W in .357, .44 Mag) and 1911 pistols (Colt, Kimber, Wilson in .38 Spl, .45 ACP) without problems. All the civilian Bullseye shooters that I knew used such loads. With proper loads, leading is typically not a problem up to 1000-1200 fps. Have loaded cast lead bullets to 1425 fps (thru Oehler chrono) in S&W revolvers without significant leading. Most of my pistols rarely, if ever, fire jacketed bullets.
  6. Texas1911

    Texas1911 TGT Addict

    May 29, 2017
    Austin, TX
    Glock and HK utilize polygonal bores in their barrels and do not suggest lead-cast bullets due to heavy fouling. I suppose you could still use them, you'd just have to be tidy with the clean-up. Another option is to get a traditional bore barrel from Jarvis or some of the other options and utilize that in the polygonal guns.
  7. baboon

    baboon Well-Known

    Catahoula Leopard dog! He's a rescued dog as well. My last 3 dogs have all been rescues.
  8. ForneyRider

    ForneyRider Member

    Jul 10, 2008
    Forney, TX
    I cast my 200gr RN bullets for my 1911 from wheel weights.

    For making your own, you can adjust the alloy, use lube, and water quenching to keep the barrel from leading.

    If you want to buy, just call up the manufacturers and ask them about the H&K. Similar things have been said about Glock, but several folks should lead out of them as well.

    Lead bullets are shot in rifles exceeding 2400fps so there isn't a velocity limitation with lead. Yep, these bullets have gas checks and very hard lube.
  9. AusTex

    AusTex Active Member

    Nov 16, 2008
    Austin, Texas

    Baboon I am looking into the Mizz bullets right now, have you had a chance to shoot any? I am trying to find some reviews about them. I would be shooting the 9mm 125's most likely.

    Between my buddy and I just over the summer we have shot probably 1200 or so lead cast out of our 9's. He uses the 147grn bullets and I have been using 115. I have not checked his guns but so far i have no bullet fouling and very few problems. He has not had any issues and he shoots the 147's in his 9mm walther p99 and a 10.5 inch ar pistol he built up.

    We actually worked up some hot 115 loads and that 10" barrel just launches smokes those light rounds.You can hear them zipping they are moving so fast. He shoots steel at 200 yards with them pretty accurately.
  10. TexasRedneck

    TexasRedneck 1911 Nut Lifetime Member

    Jan 23, 2009
    New Braunfels, TX
    I'm usin' Missouri bullets - have run 'bout 3-4k of 'em down 40's, 45's an' 357's with no issues to date. I run 'em on the lower side of their suggested max load for the round, and have been quite pleased with the results.


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