House Passes Gun-Control Bill Expanding Background Checks on Firearm Sales

[V-Tach]

How will this effect LTC holders who already have undergone the extensive background check?.... Sorry guys....this is probably not the only dumb question i will ask

Depends on what else is written into the Bill.....if Texas LTC will still suffice, then no change....but most gun owners don't have an LTC...........

 

[Frank59]

Depends on what else is written into the Bill.....if Texas LTC will still suffice, then no change....but most gun owners don't have an LTC...........

Thanks V......I have an LTC but they sneak so much shit into these bills I was wandering if I missed anything

 

[oldag]

If I am not mistaken, this will take 60 votes to pass senate not 51.

 

[Frank59]

If I am not mistaken, this will take 60 votes to pass senate not 51.

Yeah......How does all that work......Open question for anybody

 

[PinnedandRecessed]

If I am not mistaken, this will take 60 votes to pass senate not 51.

I believe 60 votes needed is only if they filibuster.....GOA telling people to contact Joe Manchin and tell him to stand firm on the filibuster. We'll see how much backbone Sen Manchin has shortly.

Manchin will Ultimately Decide Whether Gun Control Passes | GOA

Urge Sen. Manchin to Keep His Promise to You and the Rest of the American People With both ultra-Leftist Senators winning their races in Georgia, anti-gun Democrats completely control the Congress and the White House. And this means that we are in for a very rough two-to-four years. The very...

www.gunowners.org

 

[Renegade]

This will effectively end gun shows.....no private sales and they will have 10 days to approve buyers for a background check....

I'd like to think the unintended consequence is 50% of the population gets an LTC to bypass, but that is not likely.

 

[Renegade]

Did you know that during the first part of china virus lock downs a majority of of our customers were delayed for 30 days? You trust .Gov?

And that was a flagrant violation of Federal law.

 

[Renegade]

Hard to imagine how they can enforce this, without a registry...

It will be self enforced.

Just look at all the folks who think they need a BOS to protect themselves, when it is not even legally required. No way they are going to make an illegal sale, they probably think every buyer is an undercover Fed.

 

[MTA]

It will be self enforced.

Just look at all the folks who think they need a BOS to protect themselves, when it is not even legally required. No way they are going to make an illegal sale, they probably think every buyer is an undercover Fed.

Probably what all those extra 200 hundred atf agents are for

 

[cygunner]

The craziest part is very simple: Criminal don't buy guns with background checks. Basically, criminals don't obey laws. f'd up

They don't give a crap about criminals. Criminals vote for them. They are trying to disarm a population so they can do whatever the hell they want.

 

[Renegade]

The craziest part is very simple: Criminal don't buy guns with background checks. Basically, criminals don't obey laws. f'd up

The biggest mistake gun owners make is thinking gun control is about reducing crime.

 

[toddnjoyce]

If I am not mistaken, this will take 60 votes to pass senate not 51.

I think you are confusing with the votes need to close a filibuster vs pass a piece of legislation. See below.

Yeah......How does all that work......Open question for anybody

In the Senate, the bill is assigned to another committee and, if released, debated and voted on. Again, a simple majority (51 of 100) passes the bill.

The Legislative Process | house.gov

www.house.gov

 

[Axxe55]

The craziest part is very simple: Criminal don't buy guns with background checks. Basically, criminals don't obey laws. f'd up

Gun control laws, have nothing to do with criminal, other than to make law-abiding guns owners into criminals.

This is tyranny at it's best. Restrict or infringe upon our gun rights is just another step towards tyranny, and control of people, not guns.

 

[kbaxter60]

Did you know there’s a provision in there that any state taking advantage of those funds can’t use any of it to offset tax revenue or all the funding will have to be repaid?

I did NOT know that. Not quite sure what it means, either. I heard that Pelosi's district is getting $650M to cover a deficit. That's not what we are talking about with the provision, is it? I can't image that she would have any possible plan to pay that back. Does it mean "offset future tax revenues"?

 

[mnpshooter]

The couple of Dem senators that could stop this Bill will likely not stand up for the 2nd Amendment. Why? HR1 is a likely pass taking all the pressure off of the purple state Democrats to vote against their party. If (when) HR1 passed and goes across brain dead Biden’s desk this country will become a one party dictatorship.

 

[Dougw1515]

Absolutely none of this...NONE - will mean shit IF the States reject it. The Federal Government exist ONLY because the States allow it to...

 

[toddnjoyce]

I did NOT know that. Not quite sure what it means, either. I heard that Pelosi's district is getting $650M to cover a deficit. That's not what we are talking about with the provision, is it? I can't image that she would have any possible plan to pay that back. Does it mean "offset future tax revenues"?

From WSJ, might be paywalled:

“But here’s the political gut punch. The bill explicitly bars states from cutting taxes. States “shall not use the funds,” the bill says, “to either directly or indirectly [our emphasis] offset a reduction in the net tax revenue” that results “from a change in law, regulation, or administrative interpretation during the covered period that reduces any tax (by providing for a reduction in a rate, a rebate, a deduction, a credit, or otherwise) or delays the imposition of any tax or tax increase.””

Opinion | Democrats to States: No New Tax Cuts

The Covid bill says more spending is fine, but cutting taxes is barred.

www.wsj.com

 

[Renegade]

Absolutely none of this...NONE - will mean shit IF the States reject it. The Federal Government exist ONLY because the States allow it to...

States dont get a vote.

This will pass easily, 8 Republicans voted for it in the House.

 

[Tex62]

The couple of Dem senators that could stop this Bill will likely not stand up for the 2nd Amendment. Why? HR1 is a likely pass taking all the pressure off of the purple state Democrats to vote against their party. If (when) HR1 passed and goes across brain dead Biden’s desk this country will become a one party dictatorship.

With the Rep Party at 90% RINOS, it is already one party rule.


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[TX oddball]

I used to give a shit.

Pretty much my mantra, my theme for 2021.