House Passes Gun-Control Bill Expanding Background Checks on Firearm Sales

[toddnjoyce]

Nothing personal, but gracious I hope you are not right...

Me too, but I’m a realist and I don’t see R’s having any sacred cows anymore and the Ds brought a steamroller to the current session.

 

[Renegade]

We have a situation where a large number of gun owners are complacent about protecting their rights, a large number of Republican legislators only pay lip service to gun rights, and a large number of Democrats have been waiting over a decade to steamroll America on gun rights.

One school shooting and we are really phucked.

These two bills are nothing compared to what else is coming. By the end of the year we will be wishing this is all that got passed.

 

[Analog Kid]

Our Founders, however, were extremely wary of federal power and thus created a number of checks and balances to counter it. One of them was the ability by the states to “nullify” federal laws and even Supreme Court decisions. As most conservatives know, nullification is when a State decides to not abide by a federal law, regulation or even a Federal court ruling by simply refusing to enforce it. This concept is rooted in the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution, which plainly states that if the states, who are the creators of the federal government, have not specifically given them authority, that authority rests with the states and the people of the state:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Over the last 150 years or so, liberal legislators and judges have violated the Tenth Amendment by illegally expanding the scope and power of the federal government. We know that Federal power is limited because such powers were actually “enumerated” or listed in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution and include actions such as “To lay and collect taxes,” “coin money,” and “raise and support Armies.” The federal government was not given any role in education, health, welfare, transportation, energy, or even with maintaining secure borders. All those issues were left up to the states to decide. If our founders wanted to expand the federal government into every area of our life, they would not have specifically listed the very few powers they granted it.

 

[oldag]

Our Founders, however, were extremely wary of federal power and thus created a number of checks and balances to counter it. One of them was the ability by the states to “nullify” federal laws and even Supreme Court decisions. As most conservatives know, nullification is when a State decides to not abide by a federal law, regulation or even a Federal court ruling by simply refusing to enforce it. This concept is rooted in the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution, which plainly states that if the states, who are the creators of the federal government, have not specifically given them authority, that authority rests with the states and the people of the state:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Over the last 150 years or so, liberal legislators and judges have violated the Tenth Amendment by illegally expanding the scope and power of the federal government. We know that Federal power is limited because such powers were actually “enumerated” or listed in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution and include actions such as “To lay and collect taxes,” “coin money,” and “raise and support Armies.” The federal government was not given any role in education, health, welfare, transportation, energy, or even with maintaining secure borders. All those issues were left up to the states to decide. If our founders wanted to expand the federal government into every area of our life, they would not have specifically listed the very few powers they granted it.

The Founders were wary of federal power and I am weary of federal power.

 

[navyguy]

States dont get a vote.

This will pass easily, 8 Republicans voted for it in the House.

States do get a vote, albeit somewhat removed. It’s the state’s people who elect the congresspersons, who are at least morally obliged obligated to follow the will of the people and keep true to their campaign rhetoric.


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[seeker_two]

Well, yes.

It is more about what he hasn’t done that she would have. As bad as Cornyn is, he is 1000x better than her

Details, please.....

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[phoenix]

The fillibuster goes we are *****d. Montana and West Virginia have to have the most stupid voters there are. I mean Tester is an obama lover all the way ( only thing worse than obama is an obama lover) and Manchin might just give enough like getting rid of it for that one voting "rigths" law. We are screwed.

 

[motorcarman]

 

[Coop45]

Registration worked out so well in Canada, that they abolished that law because no one was registering their stuff.

If Canadians reacted with that level of defiance, how do you think Americans will react?

You mean the people who will wear a useless piece of cloth across their face?

 

[Coop45]

I see you bought one of those new upside down guns!

What kind of holster is available for it?

 

[Texas45]

What kind of holster is available for it?

Actually it will fit in my shield holsters. But it is a tad wider so if I was to use them for it I believe the stretch would loosen them if I was to do so.

So currently I have a cheapo Uncle Mikes just to test carry it with.

I need to go custom holster shopping for it.

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[Frank59]

Is compromise possible? Republicans have gun control proposals too

The last time a president signed gun reform into law was over 25 years ago in 1994, and the most recent legislation isn't likely to break that streak with a 60-vote filibuster and Republicans who find the bills overreaching.

www.foxnews.com

 

[kbaxter60]

Well, well, well. More "laws for thee but not for me" crap today:

Secret Service reportedly got involved in bizarre gun case involving Hunter Biden

The Secret Service intervened in an investigation into a 2018 incident involving Hunter Biden and his girlfriend at the time — his former sister-in-law, Hallie — in which she took his g…

nypost.com

 

[TheDan]

Yeah I'm sure Republicans can't wait to "compromise" by letting them only infringe a little more instead of taking it all, and then patting themselves on the back for it.

A compromise would be conceding healthcare is a human right that should be provided for by the government, as long as every citizen is issued an M16 when they turn 18 and provided seven loaded 30rd magazines at regular intervals.

 

[Renegade]

Well, well, well. More "laws for thee but not for me" crap today:

Secret Service reportedly got involved in bizarre gun case involving Hunter Biden

The Secret Service intervened in an investigation into a 2018 incident involving Hunter Biden and his girlfriend at the time — his former sister-in-law, Hallie — in which she took his g…

nypost.com

" POLITICO obtained copies of the Firearms Transaction Record and a receipt for the gun dated Oct. 12, 2018. "

Then post it.

 

[tinplas]

Hunter Biden Reportedly Violated Federal Law by Lying on Background Check

Hunter Biden may have committed a felony offense by lying on a background check before purchasing a gun, Politico reported on Thursday. Biden answered “no” in response to the question “Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any...

www.yahoo.com

 

[gll]

Hunter Biden Reportedly Violated Federal Law by Lying on Background Check

Hunter Biden may have committed a felony offense by lying on a background check before purchasing a gun, Politico reported on Thursday. Biden answered “no” in response to the question “Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any...

www.yahoo.com

There would be no "may have", if it were thee or me...

 

[Renegade]

So not only did Hunter lie on the form (felony), he was also in possession of the firearm while a prohibited person (felony). And one wonders how he passed NICS? His drug abuse is public knowledge.

Wait and see - Biden will get a pass and ATF/DOJ will go after the FFL for knowingly selling to a prohibited person.

 

[kbaxter60]

NEWS ALERT: Our dear leader is about to address the nation (1:15PM ET, scheduled). Newsmax says "he will take some tough questions". Yeah, I am expecting the likes of "what is your favorite flavor of ice cream?"

 

[karlac]

NEWS ALERT: Our dear leader is about to address the nation (1:15PM ET, scheduled). Newsmax says "he will take some tough questions". Yeah, I am expecting the likes of "what is your favorite flavor of ice cream?"

He'd have to check/circle back with piglosi on that first ...